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Will Google Think I Inflate Impressions?

         

signup1

2:22 pm on Oct 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I made some changes to my site, and my impressions got 10x. Earning is till the same. Uniqu visitors are the same. But many hits are at the same second or more: like 5 hits per 2 seconds.

Here is what I did:
I used a redirect code, so when the users want to go back, it will be redirected back. I put a history.go(-2), but nobody cares. They keep going back then redirected back to my page.... I am worried that google may think I am faking impressions to reduce CTR. What should I do? Email them?

mitsu

2:27 pm on Oct 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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why would you want to reduce your CTR?

Jenstar

2:48 pm on Oct 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Yes, it would falslely inflate impressions which is against the terms, but it also interferes with the site navigation, which is also against the terms.

signup1

2:58 pm on Oct 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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But I need the redirect so the site can work properly. The only problem is that end users do not know to click history.go(-2)

It is not my problem, is it?

There is no automatic process to increase the impressions.

hyperkik

3:01 pm on Oct 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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If your site doesn't comply with the terms of service then, yes, it is your problem.

dvduval

3:04 pm on Oct 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Surely there is a method you can use besides a redirect code, such as process their request on the first page.

alika

3:04 pm on Oct 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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It is not my problem, is it?

Sure, it is not your problem. Just hope and pray that (a) G's quality control team do not stumble on your site and send you an account termination email for violating the TOS; and (b) a "snitch" will not come across your site and report you to G. If any of the two happens, then that's the time it becomes YOUR problem.

What I can't understand with your logic is why do you insist on a feature that your users do not know how to use, as you said yourself? That goes against the very idea of usability and good site design.

signup1

3:05 pm on Oct 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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You said:

it also interferes with the site navigation, which is also against the terms.

TOS:
Pop-ups, pop-unders or exit windows that interfere with site navigation, obscure Google ads, change user preferences, or are for downloads. Other types of pop-ups, pop-unders, or exit windows may be allowed, provided that they do not exceed a combined total of 5 per user session

But my page is NOT an exit window. By definiation. This is exit window;

<!-- TWO STEPS TO INSTALL EXIT WINDOW:

1. Paste the coding into the HEAD of your HTML document (replace [example.com...] with your affiliate URL, and change the width and height to suit your needs)

2. Copy the onunLoad event handler into the BODY tag -->

<!-- STEP ONE: Copy this code into the HEAD of your HTML -->

<HEAD>

<SCRIPT LANGUAGE="JavaScript">

<!-- Begin
function leave() {
window.open('http://www.example.com','','toolbar=no,menubar=no,location=no,height=500,width=500');
}
// End -->

</SCRIPT>

</HEAD>

<!-- STEP TWO: Copy this code into your BODY tag -->

<BODY onUnload="leave()">

[edited by: Jenstar at 7:55 am (utc) on Nov. 1, 2004]
[edit reason] examplified URL [/edit]

signup1

3:09 pm on Oct 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Surely there is a method you can use besides a redirect code, such as process their request on the first page.

Which part on Adsense TOS says no redirect is allowed? Does adsense also ban Javascript? By the way, Hotmail uses Redirect Too. Is that a BAD design? I think not.

alika

3:12 pm on Oct 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Signup ... you seem to be very determined to follow what you want. If you don't want our opinion, rest your case and just do whatever you please. Just don't come back whining that your account was terminated.

richlowe

3:20 pm on Oct 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Sorry for being dense, but I have no idea what you are trying to accomplish. It sounds like you've modified the back key so it really doesn't go back and users are pressing it over and over in order to get back? Or did I read it wrong?

Richard

PatrickDeese

3:37 pm on Oct 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Actually I think it is Adwords TOS that forbids that sort of navigation.

[adwords.google.com...]

Working Back Button

Links to your website must allow users to return to the Google search results page or ad network by clicking once on the browser's Back button.

At any rate - anyone that has JS disabled will not be able to navigate properly, and if someone gets to this page via a deeplink or because a SERP plopped them there, this type of navigation will plunk them back into the search engine.

signup1

12:50 am on Oct 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Signup ... you seem to be very determined to follow what you want. If you don't want our opinion, rest your case and just do whatever you please. Just don't come back whining that your account was terminated.

I don't know why people blame me cheating. I am not. I need top.location as redirect. I need it. There are only 3 ways of redir: meta, location, and js. header location is a nono. meta sometimes leak. js redirect can be encrypted. My problem is the same if somebody clicks 100 times of my ad. Is that a problem of me? It seems recently we heard a lot of none sense shutdown of several accounts (those may be cheaters and did not tell the whole story). I am worried that google can kick somebody out without giving out why. I am just afraid here. That is all.

alika

12:57 am on Oct 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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You say you are afraid, and people are giving you their opinion that you may be violating G's TOS, yet you don't believe us.

The best approach is for you to email G yourself and ask them if what you are doing is allowed. Straight from the horse's mouth. That is what you need. So if G says No, then it is No. If they say Yes, then Yes. Go to them directly.

mitsu

4:52 am on Oct 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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yes just email them