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Buying Links is a Greater Threat to Adsense

NOT PageRank manipulation

         

dvduval

10:44 pm on Oct 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I am starting to see an evolution in the buying and selling of links on websites. I believe it started out as a way to increase PageRank, but it is becoming far more than that. Purchasing text links with decent placement on high traffic sites offers the benefit of getting traffic from the link itself. More and more high traffic sites are able to ride the wave that Google started by selling space on their site. Moreover, these sites are starting to use more advanced software to allow link buyers to login and see activity. My guess is this software will continue to evolve and give Google Adsense some major competition from thousands of high traffic sites.

ken_b

11:05 pm on Oct 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Purchasing text links with decent placement on high traffic sites offers the benefit of getting traffic from the link itself.

Nothing new there, it's called advertising.

dvduval

11:09 pm on Oct 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Nothing new there, it's called advertising.

Agreed, but the technology driving that advertising is more closely resembling adsense, and sites that start with adsense, if given the right software, can get rid of adsense and capture a larger share. To support this, there is an increasing market for the buying and selling of this advertising.

ken_b

11:17 pm on Oct 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>>.. more closely resembling adsense <<I've thought about about that a bit. I suspect that adsense is a good way for many publishers that, before adsense, were unable to sell space on their sites to get started selling ad space.

Partly because they may not have had a reliable way to value that space before. Adsense may help them establish a minimum value for their space. And I do think in many cases it is a minimum value.

dvduval

11:52 pm on Oct 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I see you joined WebmasterWorld just 7 days after I did and that you have now been a member for over 3 years, Ken. Happy Anniversary!

To expound on my point, the market for buying and selling advertising is currently in a state of transition as small and medium sized sites can more easily participate in the market.

When Google does certain things to their search engine, it actually contributes to this emerging market:
1) By penalizing emerging sites in the SERPS, it is true that it temporarily increases Google's revenue in Adwords, BUT it also contributes to the further development of this emerging market for buying and selling links.
2) As Google changes the payout for publishers, it increases the possibility that these publishers will participate in this emerging market.
3) As Google reserves PageRank for older sites, these sites become more valuable to people who are seeking advertising, and space on these sites can be more easily sold at premium.
4) As 1,2 and 3 occur, advertisers start to have other places to spend there money besides Google.

Unless Google corrects the problem with PageRank for emerging sites, and starts actually increasing payout for publishers, I think we are going to see an erosion of what Google has worked so hard to capture. And this erosion could not happen at a worse time, as MSN and Yahoo are starting to spend more and more on the development of search.

ken_b

12:22 am on Oct 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The thing about adsense for publishers like me is that it provides a modest income from my site, while requiring a minimum of involvement on my part.

More involvement would mean I'd need to charge higher rates to compensate for the involvement.

With advertizers possibly lowering bids, and adwords apparently lowering payouts for many, I'm not sure that charging higher fees is possible for everyone.

I think that's important to a lot publishers. Selling advertizing isn't why I built my site, the topic of is the site is what interests me.

The money is well appreciated, and it shows some idea of the previously unrealized potential.

Now if maximizing that potential was my main focus, well then adsense would need to really pick up, or it would have to be allocated to a lesser location on my pages and viewed simply as incremental income.

[Thanks for noticing the dates. Time sure flies by doesn't it?]

dvduval

12:49 am on Oct 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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hing about adsense for publishers like me is that it provides a modest income from my site, while requiring a minimum of involvement on my part.
More involvement would mean I'd need to charge higher rates to compensate for the involvement.

I believe it is becoming easier to make a modest income with only modest involvement without using Adsense, though Adsense a great product.

blairsp

1:46 pm on Oct 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I believe it is becoming easier to make a modest income with only modest involvement without using Adsense, though Adsense a great product

Would certainly agree with this although I suppose it depends on yrou earnings from adsense. I used one of the link exchange auction sites to auction one solitary text link on my homepage. Received (via paypal) more in one month than I had received from adsense. It took me about 3 minutes to register, 5 to set up the auction. Not exactly hard going.

dvduval

3:33 pm on Oct 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Exactly, it only takes a few minutes to register for an auction, and then add the link for the winning bidder. They are paying you for a full month for the link, so after the eight or so minutes it took to set everything up, there is zero maintenance for at least one month, and if they renew for another month, even less maintenance. And the financial reward is almost always higher than adsense. As these programs become more developed...

alika

3:56 pm on Oct 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Why can't you do both? It's not an "either-or" situation, as Google allows limited text links on sites. What they don't allow is if you present your text ads similar to Adsense ("mimic Google texts ads or appear to be associated with Google text ads on your site").

Your own text ads can be part of what you call diversifying revenue stream. Not putting all eggs in the Adsense basket. We've been doing it for years, although we don't do auctions - people just come to us and sign up, some of which are Adwords advertisers whose ads also show up on our site. Selling text ads is a great way to earn revenue without much effort.

adamxcl

3:06 pm on Oct 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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For me, it's a balance to some seasonal numbers. When my main product doesn't sell as much, Adsense contributes a base that doesn't go up and down as much.