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Adsense vs. other advertising services

Adsense vs. other similar advertising services

         

yuetlee122

4:49 am on Oct 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hi all...

I am curious in getting your sense/opinions of adsense versus other web-ad services (ie - Quigo...etc.) on several guidlines...

-ease of use.
-acceptance restrictions
-which pays on-time.
-which pays more fairly for your content.
-and any other thoughts, opinions.

thanks.

eddy22

7:08 am on Oct 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>>Has anyone heard about www.kanoodle.com?

I have heard about BrightAds which kanoodle launched last week for content sites. Not sure how it perform since I have not tried them.

mahidhar

3:45 pm on Oct 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hi Morpheous,

What will be the EPC for adhe**us?

zeca

4:02 pm on Oct 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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ADhea**s is ok.
I used to have ad sense on my page, but it gave me lot of trouble. At first they didn't approved the site because they considered it as not familiar.
It was a literature site, so I had to censor content to try again adsense.
Then it was allowed.
It worked fine for a month, but then they cancelled my account. I sent some emails but all I got as a response was that there were invalid clicks. Only that. I tried further asking what kind of invalid clicks, what exactly happened, but they refused any further explanation, because it would expose their technology etc. sigh...
I guess what happened is, being a site about local writers, we had almost only local visitors (and clicks). And as my city has only one big provider, once in a while every one can have the same IP another one had. I guess google should pay more attention to the computer ID than the IP, but I will never know if this was the trobule, as they refuse to release such information.
Then I changed to #*$!. I'm very happy now. Lower payout. No censorship. Lower conversion rates but higher pay per click. Untill now, no troubles. I'm very glad with this change, mainly because the end of google censorship.
If you are curious, I suggest you have both on different sites, so you can better compare.
I hope I helped :[smilestopper])

europeforvisitors

5:07 pm on Oct 11, 2004 (gmt 0)



Maybe I'm missing something here, but what kind of "censorship" is Google practicing? Surely you don't regard fraud detection as "censorship"?

NeedScripts

6:33 pm on Oct 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Sorry but what is ADhea**s and why is the word censored?

level80

7:16 pm on Oct 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The word is probably censored as it is a swear word - quite what I'm still guessing.

europeforvisitors

7:54 pm on Oct 11, 2004 (gmt 0)



Back to IntelliTXT: I've taken a look at it, and while the concept is interesting, I have three concerns:

1) The green keyword/links are a bit distracting to readers

2) The IntelliTXT "tool tip" ads block the text on the page, and the lag while waiting for an ad to disappear is annoying (at least to me).

3) A poorly matched ad in body text is more glaring than a poorly matched ad in a banner, leaderboard, or skyscraper.

BTW, I'm not bothered by the arguments (made by some critics and journalists) that IntelliTXT blurs the distinctions between advertising and editorial. I just don't think that's the case, since the links are clearly different from normal links and the text ads are clearly labeled as sponsored links. My only quibble with IntelliTXT is the user-annoyance factor.

zeca

1:43 am on Oct 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hi europeforvisitors,

Surely fraudulent clicks should be contained and punished. What I was tal about is the content restrictions. I nkow USA is a very religious country, but there are some things in the forbidden list that amazes me (https://www.google.com/adsense/policies):
1- Profanity: what is this, google had made a business partnership with Vatican? Why should google care about religious matters?
2- Hacker content: how they determine that? most time I'm worried about having a virus or spyware in my computer I find useful information on pages about hackerism and net security.
3- Porn: what has google against people naked? Is it a crime being naked?
4- Chance games: again, is it google business if the webmaster or the visitors are interested in knowing about chance games? no.
5- Drug related equipment: what is this? if I talk about pipes will my account be cancelled. I even heard about proihibition against alcohol related pages.

So, from the 11 items, I found 5 to be problematic. I must say that my site had none of these 11 items google state as forbidden. But they considered it a not-familiar content, so they denied it at first. And all my site has is plain litteratura, some from long dead authors (www.fonjic.com.br -> it is in portuguese, so I guess you can't read it...)

Perhaps this is a cultural problem, as EUA is a religious country and finds things likes swearing and naked people to be offensive. Well, but my readers and advertisers aren't from EUA, so I see no point in applying the EUA morality in all over the world.

Adh*arus only states as forbidden illegal activities and racial biggotry. And that's it. I never noticed how conservative google guidelines were untill I joined Adhe*rus. And they have ads similar to adsense, but they started this business long before google did, so I guess that's why we can't write #*$! here. You see?

yuetlee122

2:04 am on Oct 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Sure does look like competition is heating up. That is good! I hope the incumbent and newer services offer more in terms of better customer support and incentives to lure publishers. Good news....

yuetlee122

2:11 am on Oct 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Anybody have experiences/comments about ad-hearus (less the '-') so far?

thx.

europeforvisitors

2:45 am on Oct 12, 2004 (gmt 0)



Zecus, my dictionary defines "censor" as "to examine in order to suppress or delete anything thought to be harmful or dangerous." Google's AdSense network doesn't do that; it simply won't you let run its ads on pages or sites that don't meet its standards.

Remember, Google and its advertisers have rights, too. Why should they be required to run ads on pages that they find objectionable for commercial (or any other) reasons?

We're getting a bit off-topic here, so I'll wrap up by saying that the ability to make choices--i.e., to be selective--is a good thing not just for publishers, but also for ad networks and advertisers.

scottct1

1:24 pm on Oct 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Can I put ad-hearus (less the -) ads on my site on pages where Google Ads are NOT Displayed? Or is that a no no?

morpheus83

1:58 pm on Oct 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I would not recommend adhersus they have a very low inventory of ads and very low payout. :-(

blairsp

10:31 am on Oct 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I would not recommend adhersus they have a very low inventory of ads and very low payout. :-(

that is one of the reasons that competitors will struggle against Adsense. To me, is it worth it to try a new company for one/perhaps two months, to see if the inventory picks up. I can easily give them 10% of my pages (about 50 pages) and not see a huge/unmanageable drop in my earnings. If the company doesn't pick up well you (and many others) have given them "their shot". For example Qui*o/Adso*ar were quite poor to begin with for me. But recently I have been getting some pretty good individual click throughs(travel site) from some pretty big names in the travel industry and yes I have received a cheque without living in everyday fear of getting "booted" from their programme..

europeforvisitors

1:19 pm on Oct 13, 2004 (gmt 0)



For example Qui*o/Adso*ar were quite poor to begin with for me. But recently I have been getting some pretty good individual click throughs(travel site) from some pretty big names in the travel industry and yes I have received a cheque without living in everyday fear of getting "booted" from their programme..

I tried Adso*ar, but they just don't the depth and breadth of advertisers that AdSense does. As a result, a page that might receive a highly targeted ad with AdSense gets an Orbitz ad with Adso*ar. So if, say, you've got a page about narrowboat rentals in England (a topic that's obviously pretty specialized), you're more likely to get Orbitz ads for English hotels or something else that's fairly generic if you're using AdSo*ar or another AdSense competitor.

I think the real opportunity for AdSense rivals is in market niches, especially if an OEM supplier comes along to supply a turnkey solution. Take travel: Every travel agency, hotel, etc. uses computers for reservations, so think of the potential market that GDS vendors would have if they could piggyback an AdSense-like advertising program on their existing services to subscribers.

yuetlee122

3:02 pm on Oct 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Any users tried the new service Kanoodle (brightads) yet? Have anyone signed up and got approved or still waiting for approval?

top5jamaica

3:15 pm on Oct 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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why is it that certain competitors, for example #*$! (ad-hearus), are being asteriked/blocked when you put their name up here but others, for example quigo, are not censored.

a couple months ago i tried to start a thread similar to this where i mentioned possible competitors for adsense and asked for feedback as to what options look good ... and the thread was deleted ... twice.

unless someone is blatantly trying to use this board to promote their brand/company i think we should be allowed to mention the competition and discuss options

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