Welcome to WebmasterWorld Guest from 54.196.208.6

Forum Moderators: incrediBILL & martinibuster

Message Too Old, No Replies

Google Adsense Participation Policy

participation policy of adsense publishers

     
6:32 am on Oct 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

New User

10+ Year Member

joined:Oct 3, 2004
posts:16
votes: 0


Hi All,

I've been reading some posts and they are very informative.

I do have a question about Adsense Participation. I was previously banned from Google Adsense. If my sister-in-law wanted to participate with her own new domain, content and address, can she be admitted? Of course she will be using my computer to do her publishing and login's, which means her registration (and logins) will come from the same IP address as the one i've used to login to the adsense site before.

Will that be allowed? Can friends or relatives of a previously banned publisher participate in the program? I personally can't see any 'guilt by association' policy in effect...but just wanted to get some thoughts from the group.

Thanks.

7:33 am on Oct 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member

joined:Feb 7, 2003
posts:1179
votes: 0


Why does your sister in law not have her own PC and you must be a real cool person to let your sister in law use your PC to maintain her website?

The answer to your question "No"

google will have a record of the details you used to login for your previous site, when you sign up for a new site to be accepted all they have to do is cross reference these details.

It has happened with two bother's from the same house using two different PC's but same IP number, one got banned and the other brother's account was also disabled.

You may get away with it, who knows but sooner or later they will spot a patern and your account will be disabled.

8:00 pm on Oct 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

Junior Member

10+ Year Member

joined:Sept 21, 2004
posts:58
votes: 0


I have a similar problem - a colleague in my office wants to get an adsense account. I already have a working adsense account. We are unrelated, different last names, different addresses, different payee names and own different websites.

The only thing common, once my colleague signs up is we could be checking our adsense accounts from the same IP address. I guess this could trigger a "multiple account" alarm at G.

Can anyone throw light on if this could possibly result in both our accounts getting banned?

8:37 pm on Oct 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

Full Member

10+ Year Member

joined:Mar 5, 2004
posts:215
votes: 0


Delete your cookies and you are fine, there is no way they can track that ip to a person. (for the original question).
9:30 pm on Oct 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member jenstar is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member

joined:Dec 22, 2002
posts:4663
votes: 0


IP matching is one of the things AdSense does when checking against suspended accounts.

Also, do note that once an account has been suspended, a block has been placed on all domains that were running AdSense on that account, so AdSense will not display on those sites unless AdSense manually removes the block.

10:07 am on Oct 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member

joined:July 31, 2003
posts:2280
votes: 0


Also, do note that once an account has been suspended, a block has been placed on all domains that were running AdSense on that account

That's why it pays to have different accounts just in case there is an error somewhere and/or you get banned innocently (whether it's someone else's fraudulent clicks or low CTR or some other reason altogether). BUT Adsense don't allow multiple accounts in one name :(

7:54 pm on Oct 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

New User

10+ Year Member

joined:Oct 3, 2004
posts:16
votes: 0


Jenstar, Macro and others...

Thanks for the informative replies. :-)

No to belabor the point, but...in entirety, here's the details of my situation (and question)

I was previously banned from adsense. (and yes, have learned my lesson). My siter-in-law created an account (from a different IP address when she first registered, new domain, different mailing address than my original one). She has read thoroughly through the TOS and abiding by it. (Now here's the kicker). She came over to my house and logged into her adsense account (just once). She usually logs into it from her house.

Now my question is this...will google ban her account having observed that she logged in from a banned IP address that I have also used to login before?

She's a bit paranoid, that she too will be banned after having put in all the hardwork for her site. Afterall, she is abiding by all TOS agreements.

Any insights, thoughts are appreciated. Thanks.

7:55 pm on Oct 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

New User

10+ Year Member

joined:Oct 3, 2004
posts:16
votes: 0


(ammendment to previous post.)

My siter-in-law does have a site that is live and running today. So it's not like she got banned from the start of her registration. Just curious if her (one time) login by using my PC/IP address will affect her from also getting banned or not.

thanks.

8:50 pm on Oct 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member

joined:July 31, 2003
posts:2280
votes: 0


my gut feeling is that she won't get banned. But don't let her ever forget that Google probably now knows there's a connection between you two.
6:15 am on Oct 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

Junior Member

10+ Year Member

joined:Sept 21, 2004
posts:58
votes: 0


Now, suppose I design websites too. What happens if a client wants me to install the adsense code into his webpages. He really has no idea of HTML and wants me to login to his account and setup the ads on the pages. Wouldn't there be multiple account logins from the same IP?
7:23 am on Oct 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member

joined:Feb 5, 2003
posts:689
votes: 0


Right. I have a pal who has a similar situation.

He is webmaster for a group of companies. Each company is an individual entity; has its own contentt portal.

The adsense management is entrusted to the webmaster, alongwith all his other responsibilities.

Now the problem is that has to check multiple adsense accounts. If he does it from his own PC, he may get banned for multiple accounts. So the poor fool goes to the neighbouring office, cafe etc where they have different IPs and log into his different acconts from there.

Sad.

9:26 am on Oct 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member

joined:July 31, 2003
posts:2280
votes: 0


He really has no idea of HTML and wants me to login to his account and setup the ads on the pages

There's a price to pay for dealing with the clueless.

If the customer doesn't know enough about Adsense he could also be clicking on his own ads/encouraging others to click on this ads/doing other risky stuff. And Google would associate him with you. I think Google penalising you for something he does would be unfair but I think that them making a note that you and he are associates/partners/linked is entirely fair.

10:22 am on Oct 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member

joined:June 27, 2003
posts:835
votes: 0


what happens to the IP of a busy internet cafe, of which there are thousands upon thousands, where in any given day, 10 webmasters may check stats while travelling around. I know I have done so in most of the major cities in Europe.
11:03 am on Oct 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

Senior Member

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member

joined:July 31, 2003
posts:2280
votes: 0


10 webmasters may check stats while travelling around. I know I have done so in most of the major cities in Europe.

And that has always been recognised as a risk, albeit a small one. It's about how likely it is for a user after you to use that same PC to arrive at YOUR site and click an ad. Should the unlikely happen it is not fair that you are banned... but you did know the risk.
12:47 am on Oct 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

New User

10+ Year Member

joined:Oct 3, 2004
posts:16
votes: 0


Interesting disucussion so far.

I guess another way to rephrase the question is:

Does google, at the time of adsense sign-up AND/OR payout, check what IP you are logging in from & match that to a database of IP logins of banned users?

Do they have such a check/procedure/policy in place? If so, under what criteria do they ban the new user too if they find a match?

Can any 'Adsense informed-experts' comment on this?

This can definitely be a problem for shared network IPs.

thanks.

1:12 am on Oct 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

New User

10+ Year Member

joined:Oct 1, 2004
posts:12
votes: 0


Think about it. You have ISP's which assign blocks of IP to modems to multiple users.

Now when a client logs into our system thier given an assigned IP. THe same IP for that modem. How if you run a popular game site and 100 of your users visit that page and click, the same set of IPs will show up in the logs. Now if they are logging by IP you might see multiple clicks from the same set of IPs over and over. All physically different users but the same group of shared IPs.