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Adsense Earnings down 30%

Has anyone else noticed this

         

designhaus

1:30 pm on Sep 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Not sure if it is just myself but my adsense earnings are down significantly this month.... nearly 35% to be exact. I have a feeling Google has changed their payment algo ...

Is anyone else experiencing this?

alika

1:41 pm on Sep 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I don't think G changed their payment algo. Because unlike you, we are seeing an increase compared to last month's revenues. A decrease in revenues may be site specific (e.g. your traffic decreased, visitors now ignore your ads, advertisers are bidding less on your keywords, etc), and not always an across-the-board result of G tinkering with the payment algo (but then again, it is so easy to blame others).

Study your channels carefully to see which areas of your site are bringing in the most money, and make sure that you have loads of content on those areas. And try experimenting with multiple ads (if you havent already) - sure it may dilute your EPC or CPM, but if it increases your overall revenue, then it still is worth it.

ownerrim

7:12 pm on Sep 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

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down here about the same, roughly a third. traffic is up significantly as are impressions and clicks. the advertisers in my area are fairly consistent and a steady group of about 10 continually show up (i only show one 2-ad banner per page), so it doesn't look as though advertisers droppping out has anything to do with it, nor seasonality since that doesn't apply in my area. could be:

1. ad blindness from repeat visitors
2. lower bids
3. god knows what

However, I have seen this happen before. Down significantly one month and then up the next...so who knows. It is depressing, but...

I think the real answer (since google never gives any) is simply to optimize within the bounds of white-hat seo and MAKE MORE CONTENT. And not just the same, but branch into new areas, albeit related in some way. What the web really lacks is good content.
That's how I see it. Make more.

elguapo

8:15 pm on Sep 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

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MAKE MORE CONTENT. And not just the same, but branch into new areas, albeit related in some way. What the web really lacks is good content.

... or have a multi-topic site. So if bids or whatever of one topic goes down, you have other topics that may go up. And later on, you can create a site exclusively about that topic (a made-for-adsense site but with real honest-to-goodness useful content)

ownerrim

10:12 pm on Sep 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

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exactly. and the nice thing about having good solid content is that it can be much easier to get unreciprocated links.

creepychris

12:59 am on Sep 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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It could also be simple supply and demand. With the new multiads in place, supply suddenly doubled over night. Hence one would expect the average epc to go down. This in turn means that for those who stayed with single ads, the total revenue should go down. Whereas those with multi ads should see a decrease in the epc but an increase in the number of ads served which could increase total revenue (or possibly decrease depending on the competing effects). I also saw a roughly 30% decrease as a result of dropping epc this month but there are just so many factors that I can't really say why it happened. I have only been using single ads.

div01

2:05 pm on Sep 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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creepychris,

You nailed it on the head - that is exactly what I am seeing.

designhaus

2:29 pm on Sep 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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excellent point creepychris!

loanuniverse

2:43 pm on Sep 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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FWIW I have seen Adsense earnings go down roughly 30% for the first twenty days, but this situation was corrected on the 21st. Back to normal now, but then again my site is not that big, and is very niche.

ken_b

2:45 pm on Sep 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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This in turn means that for those who stayed with single ads, the total revenue should go down.

That hasn't been my experience. I stayed with single ad blocks and my income has stayed very steady overall.

It does look like some categories of ads on my site are getting a lower EPC, but others seem to be getting a higher EPC. All in all, it has balanced out.

But I could just as justifiably blame the changes on the weather or other factors as I could blame it on multiple ads affecting the global adsense world.

At any rate, it's probably to soon to draw any firm conclusions.

scottct1

2:49 pm on Sep 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I have not seen mine go down at all, infact my income this month has almost tripled as I made some changes to my layouts and added 2 or 3 Adsense columns per page.

That little book Google mailed out became very handy for me and I am very happy with what I am making with Google Adsense now.

I just wish I could get my clickthrough rate up from 0.4% to something higher, especially since my site has already delivered about 3 million page impressions this month. :)

Bio4ce

3:54 pm on Sep 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I noticed a fairly large spike in earnings yesterday. Triple my normal earnings. In fact today, I'm amazed at the epc that I'm getting.

trader

7:35 pm on Sep 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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My income is down but overall impressions and clicks are up nicely.

I always find it interesting why in threads like this you see many complaining about lower income whereas others happily report increased income. Very odd but happens all the time.

It would seem to depend on the publisher being diversified or not. In other words, someone like me with many diverse websites across broad subjects with fairly steady traffic levels vs a publisher with mainly one or only a few websites.

IMO the broad based publisher will be reporting income declines lately but the less diverse publisher is more likely to report income being up recently, more to do with anomalies than anything else.

wwuser

10:25 pm on Sep 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Mine's way down, at least 30% for the last two months. Page views and total clicks are about the same.

I've noticed that the ads displayed are different. Without going into specifics, I can say that they are more general than they used to be. I know there's still significant advertising in the "subcategory" that used to be displayed, because if I go to google and search on relevant terms, they show up there.

europeforvisitors

10:45 pm on Sep 24, 2004 (gmt 0)



I stayed with single ad blocks and my income has stayed very steady overall.

Same here. In fact, my revenues and effective CPM have actually been up a bit lately.

croky

12:46 am on Sep 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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My earnings cpm and click through rate tripled the last few days. from 1.8 percent to around the 8-10 percent clickthrough.

Well its prolly 99 percent because I've started a large targeted marketing campaign.

amznVibe

12:52 am on Sep 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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More and more people are installing personal firewall products that are blocking the ads by default. Assume you lose a few percentage points of the viewer base each month because of this. It can only be fixed by Google eventually allowing php/ssi/asp includes.

Also "Ads by Goooooogle" sure looks like someone is doing some kind of scam to me, why would I click on those "fake ads", isn't the company really called "Google"? ;)

walrus

4:32 am on Sep 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I agree,odd things happening,my earnings have plummeted like a rock.
Same amount of visitors but ctr is way down as is epc and Theres lots of good ads too, in several topics, so its hard to figure cause the only change i made was to split a big page into 5 smaller ones but having a few more impressions causing a lower ctr isnt supposed to effect epc so im just boggled.The only thing i could attribute it to would be the overuse of the letter O in the new brand.