Askjeeves AdSense

[ignatz]

I know, I'm slow to the party.. But I just noticed that:

a> I get a fair amount of traffic from askjeeves
b> they strip all of the adsense blocks out of my content, while framing the page.

Surely this is unacceptable (it is to me anyway). Is it Askjeeves or Google nixing the ad blocks? I'm interested to know what my fellow adsense publishers do about this..

[Macro]

use some refresh code in your header - or some js - to get rid of frames. That'll get rid of those ridiculous hotmail frames as well (like if someone clicks a link in their email to reach your site).

(But you will be disabling the user's "back" button - a small price to pay)

[edited by: Macro at 7:50 pm (utc) on Sep. 21, 2004]

[jdMorgan]

Just add an "Escape from referrer's frame" JavaScript to the head of your page(s). There are several examples posted here in the JS forum. Test thoroughly to make sure the script does not break your visitor's browser "Back" button.

Jim

[Jenstar]

Does using a frame breaker help? Do be aware that only certain frame breakers are AdSense compatible - if it constantly reloads your AdSense ad unit, you will need to use a different script for the frame breaker.

[Jenstar]

But you will be disabling the user's "back" button - a small price to pay

That would be against the AdSense policies, though. You can't disable back buttons or do anything that would affect the usual browser navigation.

[Macro]

er, I hear you but it's not really disabling the "back" button. In effect double clicking the back button will take you back to askjeeves. It's just refreshing the askjeeves.com?alksdkfj;?293848?mysite.com to mysite.com

[jdMorgan]

[webmasterworld.com...]

Jim

[Macro]

Yes, Jim, your msg #9 in that thread seems to solve the problem without affecting the back button. Nice one.

[newbies]

This is a really stupid idea just like hotmail's frame. I simply don't understand what they can gain by framing pages. I will never use it again because of the frame.

Anyway, my adsense still shows up in the frame.

[ignatz]

Thanks for the help. I still wonder why my adsense ads are blocked and the previous poster's are not...

The more I think about it the more annoying it becomes. I wonder how askjeeves would feel if I framed their entire site under a new domain called askpeeved.com

[dauction]

Mine showup also

[ignatz]

Jim, thanks for the tip, I'm considering adding your framebreaker code:

<script language="JavaScript1.1" type="text/JavaScript"><!-- // hide from old browsers 
if (parent.frames.length > 0) top.location.replace(document.location); // Escape from any referring site's frame, but preserve one-click "Back". --></script> 

Does anyone know if this will this screw up my rankings or otherwise have a detrimental effect on my site (or adsense relationship?)

I guess I'll email adsense and ask about why the ads are getting blocked.

dauction, you say your ads are still showing. Are they the "ads by google" variety or the "ads by goooooooogle"? Just wondering if that has anything to do with it. It's troubling that some ads are blocked and some are not..

[arubicus]

My ads show up but the border and colors change to default. The ads are kinda screwey some slightly different ads but most show PSA's.

A quick fix is to just click the option for framed pages and update the adsense code. It did the trick and took care of it completely.

[arubicus]

I should say not completely just the landing page seems to be correct. If you click around your site within the frame then you very well see psa's unless the page is reloaded.

Take the frame feature off and click around I notice that the styles of ads (wide skyscraper) with no borders will show borders and default colors with ads that are from the main section of the site. Clicking around within the site the ads will show a page off. I load up a page with 'red widgets' and then click to a page about 'blue widgets' then the 'blue widgets' page will show the ads from the 'red widgets page'.

Very interesting indeed.

[arubicus]

Seems that enabling the frames feature works out after all. Just have to go to the page first and/or wait for a crawl. Works for hotmail also once the new adsense code is recognized and/or crawled.

[icedowl]

I had this problem a few months ago. I've been using the following script with no problems whatsoever:

<script>
<!--
if (top.location!= location) top.location.href = location.href;
//-->
</script>

[arubicus]

ice - works like a charm!

[cmendla]

I did some checking on my sites.

Here are some of the things I observerd (and some of this might be wrong)

1. It appears that Jeeves is doing the switcheroo on some of my sites but not all

2. I think you can tell where adsense ads have been hijacked by mousing over the 'ads by gooooooogle'link . Take a look at the status bar at the bottom of IE. If Jeeves swapped out the adsense ads, you will see ask substituted for your site name. (Correct me if I'm wrong here)

3. If #2 is correct, then it appears that jeeves isn't swiping adsense for all sites, just some

4. It appears that if you click on any link inside the framed page where the ad was swapped, your ads will appear on the following pages.

5. It doesn't seem to be swiping stuff from my phpbb pages yet.

6. It looks like THE BUTLER DID IT!

I'm going to take a look at the frame breakers and try one on one of my sites. Thanks to whoever posted the first article..

chris

I would have to think that if this is true it would be some violation of the adsense TOS.

[ignatz]

Thanks for the note, interesting info.

Ask Jeeves is stealing other people's content, plain and simple. If a new site popped up doing the same thing I imagine there would be quite a stink about it.

Wish I had a spare 500K or a lawyer brother-in-law to sue them for the collective lost revenue of the websites they've framed.

[Never_again]

Ask Jeeves is stealing other people's content, plain and simple.

I agree. It wouldn't surprise me at all that they are also substituting their AS code for mine -- which, if true, would be a loss of revenue to me. When they are framed with Ask Jeeves frame across the top, the AS ads don't conform to the "look and feel" I'm using. Additionally, if you refresh the screen, the ad targeting is not good. You get ads for all kinds of products not related to my content. I NEVER have this problem on my pages.

[icedowl]

What happened to catch my attention some time back and caused me to add the frame breaker code to my site wasn't Ask Jeeves at all. It was another search (Walmart CS or something like that) that not only framed my pages, but added their own adsense to my pages. The ads they displayed had absolutely nothing to do with my content. It was just plain tacky.

[cmendla]

Icedowl

Thanks for providing the frame breaking code. I added it and tested it with ie6 and firefox. Works great.

THANKS!

chris

[AdSenseAdvisor]

ignatz (and anyone else who's experienced this with AskJeeves), could you please email [e-mail] with the URLs this is happening on and put "ATTN: AdSenseAdvisor" as the subject? I'm curious as to why this is happening but haven't been able to replicate it myself.

I'll make sure the support team looks out for your emails.

Thanks!
ASA

[zoltan]

Thanks for the response ASA! Great you are taking care of us!

[zoltan]

Does anyone use Ask toolbar?
I wonder if the code is changed on various sites if you are using the toolbar.

[ignatz]

will do ASA, thanks..

[gethan]

I can confirm that ask are substituting the adsense id's on my sites with their own as well.

In the middle of content that I have produced my codes are being replaced.

I have sent the url and search that produced this to the email provided.

browser: firefox
os: win 98

note: when I first saw this thread - I thought - this has got to be a mistake - there is no way a company as large as ask would do this. Wrong this is happening.

Also - I'm contacting the BBC on this - they recently ran an article on Ask and their new look - I'm sure they will be interested in them stealing revenue from those that make the web.

[Macro]

Hmm, have they changed something overnight? I can seem to see either the framing or the associated code replacement.

[cmendla]

Macro

Re:"I can seem to see either the framing or the associated code replacement. "

I've added icedowl's code to my sites. I **think*** that once that code gets executed in a browser, it breaks Jeeve's ability to frame other sites. At least that's how it seems to be acting for me.

I'm not sure if you would have to close all your browser windows or if you'd have to reboot and them bring up something in Jeeves that is NOT running a frame breaker script. I went into firefox and was still seeing the framing and code switching.

Chris

[gethan]

So what's to stop Jeeves removing the frame breaking code at some point later?

This is against copyright, against AdSense Tos's - disgusting behaviour. (I wish I'd looked into this thread sooner).

Why should webmasters have to increase page bloat to get rid of frames?

Hope ASA has a very good response - like the imediate termination of ask's account.