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Has the purge started?

         

blairsp

7:04 pm on Jul 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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One of my friends has recveived the dreaded e-mail. usual facts-wisnae him, sure G won't accept any explanation though. Strange thing is he had only made about $40(total) in 3 months

Anyone else?

europeforvisitors

9:58 pm on Jul 15, 2004 (gmt 0)



This forum has had threads about publishers getting bounced from AdSense almost since the network began, so there's no reason to believe that any new "purge" is occurring.

When an account generates only a token amount of revenue each month, Google may decide to close the account if any invalid clicks occur, simply because the account doesn't bring in enough profit to justify the cost of a more detailed review. Remember, Google isn't a court of law, so Google doesn't have to determine guilt or innocence--it can close an account for business reasons.

blairsp

7:50 am on Jul 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Remember, Google isn't a court of law, so Google doesn't have to determine guilt or innocence--it can close an account for business reasons.

Why doesn't it just say that then rather than the clear implication that the person has committed fraud in some way.

JuniorOptimizer

10:48 am on Jul 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Because they could care less.

The small timers aren't driving bottom line growth.

richmondsteve

1:26 pm on Jul 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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blairsp, good point. Google could and should make their communications and terms clearer because they can be quite vague. I think they either have overworked copywriters or need to whip their copywriters into shape.

caspita

1:45 pm on Jul 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I'm agree with blairsp... I have two websites .. using AdSense on both of them .. very low traffic and very low earnings, those are hardly paying for the hosting. If I get kicked off I'd like to know that the reason was because the (low CTR/high maintenance cost) and not because they claim that I'm a thief ...

At least if you get a low CTR penality you will have an excuse to get in again telling that your traffic has increased X times .. but after they said you were just doing something ilegal they won't let you to come back.

CS.

europeforvisitors

2:41 pm on Jul 16, 2004 (gmt 0)



If I get kicked off I'd like to know that the reason was because the (low CTR/high maintenance cost) and not because they claim that I'm a thief ...

I haven't heard of anyone being terminated because of low CTR or high maintenance costs, although I suppose it could happen. My point was simply that, if you have invalid clicks for any reason or from any source, Google may not feel that it's worth their while to investigate further unless your site generates a reasonable level of earnings.

Other factors may come into play, too. Some genres may cause above-average problems for Google, whether or not the publishers at fault. Let's say you've got a forum on kiddie widgets and the ads get a lot of clicks by curious 8-year-olds who don't have money to spend. Or maybe you've got a site on a controversial topic that attracts clickbot attacks because of its subject matter. In either case, Google may figure that your site is more trouble than it's worth because it's generating an unusual number of clicks that don't convert for advertisers. From Google's point of view, those clicks are wasted clicks (which may be "invalid clicks" according to Google's definition) whether or not they were made fraudulently.

Publishers might feel better if they were given the specific reasons for being terminated, but there are two good reasons why Google might prefer to use a generic dismissal notice:

1) To avoid getting into long, unproductive dialogues with publishers whose accounts Google has decided to close; and...

2) To avoid legal challenges (especially in cases where Google thinks clicks are probably fraudulent but doesn't have proof).

Google could avoid a lot of bad feelings if it explained that closing of an account for "invalid clicks" isn't equivalent to an accusation of fraud, and that it may choose to terminate its agreement with a publisher (just as a publisher can terminate its account with Google) if it overhead costs exceed profits. On the other hand, there may be some value to Google in making it clear to publishers and advertisers that the AdSense network is ruthless in dealing with anyone who's even suspected of click fraud.