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Triggering Mediabot Visit after Ad Size Change

         

yoyo8

6:34 am on Jul 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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How long does it take to trigger a mediabot visit after changing the ad size? I changed to different sized sky, visited the page, and haven't seen any visits for a while now.

It's still displaying the exact ads as before, only sized differently.

Jenstar

6:51 am on Jul 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Things seem to be slower the past few days, probably coinciding with the changes going on with Adwords. I would guess anywhere from 1.5 seconds to 24 hours if it is extremely delayed. How long have you waited?

yoyo8

7:25 am on Jul 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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How long have you waited?

I have waited over an hour. And it still hasn't visited the main page (the change I made affects over 25K pages). Due to the number of ads displayed being different I am noticing other ads being displayed in addition to the same ones as before. However these new ads are targeted to same theme as the old ones. So I'm still getting resort ads for location y when this 25K pages section has absolutely nothing to do with either!

Jenstar

7:32 am on Jul 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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When themed ads are being used (as opposed to PSAs) it might take a bit longer for mediabot to visit, but it should be within the day.

dhaliwal

11:15 am on Jul 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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yoyo?

25 k pages man?
i think they are directory links and not articles and other pages with some written stuff

well its great to have such big page count

dhaliwal apprecaited your ideas on using directories if you are suing that to create pages

yoyo8

1:42 pm on Jul 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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When themed ads are being used (as opposed to PSAs) it might take a bit longer for mediabot to visit, but it should be within the day.

Still getting the same ads, different size. 24 hours haven't passed so I'll update this thread later.

25 k pages man?
i think they are directory links and not articles and other pages with some written stuff

If you ever followed my other postings you would know that I don't think too highly of such stuff.

As for getting 25K pages of content, if you have a large enough community who like to write then it's not that hard.

dhaliwal

3:16 am on Jul 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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so thats a kind of message board you might be talking about.

Well you count those into pages, if i count them too i have around 20 k message board pages.

and i haven't followed any of your threads before

yoyo8

5:28 am on Jul 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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so thats a kind of message board you might be talking about.
Well you count those into pages, if i count them too i have around 20 k message board pages.

Except it's not a message board at all. But beyond that, I don't understand what your point is to this thread. You continually make incorrect assumptions that do not address this thread.

yoyo8

5:35 am on Jul 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Well, almost 24 hours later, I received new, and well-targeted ads. At that time I switched back to my original sized ad. And I promptly got different yet also well-targeted ads. All is fine. However, a couple of hours later the old non-targeted ads reappeared. So I immediately switched back to the other ad size. A few minutes later I got well-targeted ads again. So I think I'll just leave this ad size as is.

I think the problem has to do with the fact that the main page is in the form of a directory, without an extension. For example, www.site.com/some-section/

Adsense doesn't really seem to be checking it at all. The reason I can tell is if I go to an old page which has never been visited by mediabot it displays the same exact ads. Other pages which have been visited by mediabot display different ads. This indicates to me that the main page is actually displaying deafult ads for that section, which happen to now be well-targeted. Is anyone else having problems with the above mentioned pages, i.e. a page name with no extension?

ChrisKud5

7:28 am on Jul 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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dhaliwal-

What are you talking about? What does the original question have to do with page counts? Why this "mine is bigger than your" debate?

A page name with no extension (if i understand this correctly) is just saying www.mysite.com/directory/.

Your HTACCESS or default page shoudl re-direct to the appropiate page name when a request for that page comes in. Google is able and does spider through these redirects in the form of mediabot and googlebot. Unless you have something your robots.txt that says not to index the page, their is no reason why google cannot redirect to that specific page as athe default for the directoy.

Jenstar

7:36 am on Jul 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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>>However, a couple of hours later the old non-targeted ads reappeared.

Once the mediabot re-visits the page - triggered by the change in ad unit size, even though it is back to the original ad size - it will show those "new" well-targeted. But it will likely need to visit the page for reindexing to do so, once you change back to the original.

Marcia

7:36 am on Jul 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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You might want to install the free version of Opera and choose the AdWords option for the advertising on the browser, then pay a visit when you make a change. Someone was saying in the Google forum that when they visited their page with Opera it was triggering an immediate visit from mediabot to target the ads running in the browser.

dhaliwal

8:11 am on Jul 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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chris,

i think you have some inherent problems with me?

Why don't you keep away from me?

You can ignore me, and if you real like to abng your head against me! i have no other choice but to kick you bad.

so all your wish

yoyo8

8:13 am on Jul 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Once the mediabot re-visits the page - triggered by the change in ad unit size, even though it is back to the original ad size - it will show those "new" well-targeted. But it will likely need to visit the page for reindexing to do so, once you change back to the original.

Good point. I have now put it back to the original size and will wait another 24 hours to see the final result.

I checked my logs and indeed mediabot did visit the "/section-page/" page one time in the previous 24 hour period.

ChrisKud5

10:51 pm on Jul 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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chris,
i think you have some inherent problems with me?

Why don't you keep away from me?

You can ignore me, and if you real like to abng your head against me! i have no other choice but to kick you bad.

so all your wish

? At this point, I think adsense is the least of your worries, why don't you get some help with that anger issue of yours.

I do have some inherent problems with you, as per those stickymails you sent me, you seem more interested in making pages with high value ads just for the sake of putting adsense on it. Those are my issues with you, exploiting the system is not going to get you on my good side. And making posts that attempt to discredit other peoples work when they asked a good question is childish, so cut it out.

and if you real like to abng your head against me! i have no other choice but to kick you bad.
? Please explain what on earth that means?

-> Does google have "2 indexes"? Do they spider with mediabot and build an index for adsense, and have a seperate index for searching? In other words, will adsense look to "the big index" first for ads, and if that page is not in the index, it will send out mediabot? So, if a page is updated, will the ads next be updated with the next googlebot crawl?