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danag

7:09 pm on Jun 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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It's been heartening for me to read posts from some people with extraordinarily large websites. "Many thousands of pages..." and so on. One webmaster recently stated he had 250,000 pages on his website. This is heartening because my website has 1.5 billion pages. At a creation time of approximately 1 per minute, it took us approximately 3000 years to complete the 1.5 billion pages.

Some of you might think that creating web pages during the time of the Ancient Egyptians might be difficult, but with the incentive of AdSense (already anticipated in the fabled papyrus of Amenhotep I), the project, like the pyramids of Egypt, did get off to a good start. Later on, we had a transient delay during the Middle Ages, when the rate of web page production slowed to 10 minutes per page due to terrible plagues that had people dropping right and left, and for several years we were only able to add only 50,000 pages per year instead of the usual 500,000 pages per year.

But even at a production rate of one web page per hour, working around the clock to produce about 9000 pages a year, we might have reached our present website page count had we started 6 million years ago, just about the time when humans and chimpanzees diverged from each other. All of which is a confirmation of the old proverb my grandmother liked to repeat seven days a week: "If there's a will, there's a way."

HarleyGuy

7:20 pm on Jun 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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My grandmother used to say "the early bird gets the worm"
That's why we started building pages the day fire was discovered.

alika

7:29 pm on Jun 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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My grandfather always retorted to that adage with, "How about the worm, what did he get for getting up early". As a worm, we started our few web pages long long after you created yours. If Adsense were created at the time you started you could bought them out long time ago :-)

alika

7:30 pm on Jun 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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could have bought them out...:-)

Palehorse

8:02 pm on Jun 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The early bird might get the worm, but it's the second mouse that gets the cheese...

a1call

8:15 pm on Jun 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Yeh, but it's the cat who got the mouse:)

Swash

2:22 am on Jun 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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...what?

ownerrim

4:29 am on Jun 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I can't believe you guys are missing the real source of these megasite's pages. They are obviously being brought in through a transdimensional doorway that accesses a much larger universe.

tombola

8:19 am on Jun 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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In reality, it's more likely that these sites use only one script that can generate thousands and thousands of different pages, based on data extracted from a database.

Writing such a script doesn't take 3000 years ;-)

HelenDev

8:30 am on Jun 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Writing such a script doesn't take 3000 years

It might if I was having a bad day ;)

dhatz

9:44 am on Jun 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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In reality, it's more likely that these sites use only one script that can generate thousands and thousands of different pages, based on data extracted from a database.

Sure, but the question is HOW IS THE DATABASE COMPILED? Who does the editing? the quality control?

Practically all "huge" sites I've visited are in the Web-spam category.

Just the other day, I was looking for a particular (quite well known worldwide) hotel in an island of my country. I searched for the hotel using "island name, hotel name"

Google SERPs #1 pointed me to a site, running Adsense, which had a machine generated page of that hotel, with 5 lines description, no photos, no amenities, no rates etc. The domain and URL suggested it's in USA (instead of Greece). And it offers a choice of 4 languages, but when you click at e.g. German, the content is again in english.

Did I mention it's running Adsense?

Adsense is in fact subsidising Web-spam as far as I can tell, by giving people monetary incentive to produce spam sites WITH ZERO QUALITY CONTROL.

Pre-Adsense, these sites would simply not be viable economically, as only maybe 1 in a million would actually book through them.

They could still spam the SE, annoy + distract the users looking for info, yet eventually they'd disappear.

HarleyGuy

3:29 am on Jun 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Joe searcher does a search on google

If he clicks on sponser listing, Google wins

If he clicks on an ad, Google wins

If he clicks on spammer site that Google puts at the top of the serps and goes to site that only has Adsense ads and then clicks on one. Its a draw google wins and spammer wins

Score-> Google 3 -- Spammer site 1

Prize to winner 30 billon dollar IPO

concilation prize $0.03

What is google's insentive to remove Mr. Spammer from serps?
Nothing

As my grandmother used to say "money makes strange bed fellows"

domramsey

8:47 am on Jun 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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What is google's insentive to remove Mr. Spammer from serps?
Nothing

Long term, people will simply stop using Google if they can't find the quality of results they need.

However, I think you're right to mention those three letters.. "IPO".. I'm sure it's responsible for a lot of the very strange behaviour in the Mountain View area recently.

Visit Thailand

9:07 am on Jun 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I am not sure if this thread is serious or a joke, but I would like to point out that a mere 3,000 pages a year is less than 10 pages a day if you work a 7 day week. Not an enormous amount even for one person.

If you have three staff writers each turning out just 15 pages a day of unique and quality content (not talking about spam or trickery) that would equate to 16,425 pages a year.

Unless of course my math is off which it usually is.

What exactly is the question here?

HitProf

11:33 am on Jun 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Why do people always think big sites are one man bands created by scripts?

raymond4unc

1:21 pm on Jun 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Usually they have no quality, just adsense ads.

dhatz

1:27 pm on Jun 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I am not sure if this thread is serious or a joke, but I would like to point out that a mere 3,000 pages a year is less than 10 pages a day if you work a 7 day week. Not an enormous amount even for one person.

Have you actually tried doing it, or are you describing how you imagine it works?

Personally, I don't write content very often, but when I do, I find myself spending several minutes over a specific wording. I move paragraphs around, provide internal links etc.

And this is for areas which I know well, so I know exactly what it's going to be about and I don't have to spend time with other sources, to validate my work.

It takes me DAYS for a page to get finished.

howiejs

6:10 pm on Jun 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The bigger the site, the more pages that are keyword specifics the more chances you can get a visitor to try and click . . . .

Within the next 6 months Google will start wacking the junk sites pushing adsense clicks - it will take some time for them to sort out how they want to handle it

a) if one account has all junk sites vs
b) a decent account with 10 sites that are good and 1 that is junk - do they kill the whole thing or just punish the 1 sites clicks

or do they just use "smart pricing" as a blanket to diminish earnings from sites they do not judge worthy . . . .