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This month I was just about to break into the 10k club and google disabled my account.
Here's my question... do they pay out what was on the account before it was disabled?
First post here, so bear with me but I wanted to touch on the topic of "perpetual fear".
My site pushes in excess of $XX,XXX.xx per month. I live in this perpetual fear like you cannot believe. The way adsense has taken off on my site blew my mind. We do roughly 750k - 1M hits per month, and I have considered quiting my job and living off of adsense, but its that fear... at any time Google can say *cya*... so yes, I would turn it off. But keep in mind it can be very rewarding :)
Sure hope you haven't quit that job. Your fears were justified after all.
Maybe your 100% jump in revenue this month has something to do with it. It's quite possible that you may be reinstated after their final review.
But only Google can answer your question with the facts.
I've already sent google an email and from what I've been reading they are typically re-instating accounts.
I have no reason to cheat the google system and in all honesty its not a terribly bad deal, I can just got to one of the alternatives.
By the way, the sarcasm is kinda silly in some of the above posts... thanks Jenstar you were actually helpful.
Did you try to log in adsense account in many different PCs? There's a possibilty that the person that uses the same PC you log into the adsense account could be clicking... and Google detected that.
That could be partially your problem.
Supposing he is getting 100,000 hits per month. That would be about 3333 impressions per day. And then supposing he has a 1% click thru rate, that would be 33 clicks per day.
(I'm trying to play the devil's advocate here)
If an average of 11 of those clicks per day came from:
- computers that were used to login to adsense
- or were from the same city or region
...I think this might seem a little suspicious, because 33% of the clicks have some likelihood of seeming fraudulent. (Please don't take this as being accusatory)
Now, trying to think of ways to counteract this problem...
If you could add Adsense to a few more sites, and increase your traffic by 500%, and the number of clicks on computers you visited remained the same, then only 6% of the clicks would have a likelihood of seeming fraudulent.
This is my strategy...
I am fearful that being a small publisher could result in problems (from a statistical standpoint). Therefore, I am motivated to publish more pages, so that even if someone clicked too many times on an add, that person's clicks would be only a small percentage of the total clicks.
(Google, if you are reading this, don't take this the wrong way...)
I think about how if I wanted to make fraudualent clicks, I would have to go through much more than if I wanted to make even more money the ethical way. If I wanted to be unethical I would tell my friends to click on ads and I might even go to public terminals and make clicks myself. (The weakness in this strategy is my conversion rate would be lower than publishers who don't try to cheat the system (again, I am not pointing fingers here...merely exploring this topic)
So I am devoting my time to expanding the pages and visitors in hopes that it will minimize (statistically) the possibility of appearance of fraud. Just as an advertiser can be subjected to fraud, so too can an Adsense publisher. Therefore, I want to do everything I can to minimize the possibility of becoming the victim of fraud, plus I want to feel like I am truly earning the money I receive.
They said it was fine and their system takes into account you logging in from different computers.
I don't see why a publisher would 'live in fear' unless they know they are doing something sketchy.
The fear comes from the fact that, by the TOS, they basically can boot you for any or no reason. The wording is so broad that it's carte blanche.
For instance, what if some malicious individual decided to start a click campaign on your site, and it was deemed to be fraudulent.
Think it can't happen? Then you must also think there's no such thing as senseless vandalism or hackers.
I think most AdSense publishers, even those who do everything they can to stay 100% within the TOS, live with a substantial fear of losing that income. The only ones who don't care are those who aren't making any money.
MQ
P.S. I will reserve any comment as to how the environment of fear and worry that Google has created fits in with "do no evil."
....... everywhere you went.... you log into adsense... that's very bad...
Trust me, the RELATIVES love doing that... Last time I showed them my website. They know where the ads are and keep CLICKING! As soon as I find out, I am like (no emoticons to show you the look on my face)... Anyway, good thing I DIDN'T check AdSense using my computer...
Hey folks, if you guys need to check AdSense EVERYWHERE... try GoToPC or GoToMyPC... you can log in your own computer remotely using IE browser. So it's mature. They use FireWall, image encryption, whatever necessary to keep your data safe. This is targeted at the corporate, and their program seems like it's been developed for a long time.
That way, not only your password is safe, you can check AdSense w/o fear that the next person using the PC would be clicking.
What publishers can do is to try to detech fraud clicks (IPs) themselves and put these IPs in the banned list of htaccess.
But it is hard to tell what's fraud and what's not. Anyway, AdSense is G's game. You have little control over it. Surprised or shocked, maybe angry you are, feeling of powerless and wronged I am.
