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9:03 am on May 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Data from a single channel:

Friday, May 7, 2004

*** impressions
1 click
0.*% CTR
$0.00 revenue

Waited for a few days to see whether it was a reporting delay issue - apparently not. Didn't sign up to Adsense as a voluntary contribution to society, nice guy though I am...

11:30 am on May 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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For the fun of it, maybe the click was worth $0.005 or so and since the reporting is double-digit... :)
12:06 pm on May 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Are you sure the click wasn't from your own IP?

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12:07 pm on May 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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There are usually two reasons for a zero earning click showing up. Either there was an invalid click received (they show up in stats as a click but with zero earnings), or if there was a day split with the impression showing up on Thursday if it was loaded right before midnight PST, but then the actual click was not made until after midnight.
1:01 pm on May 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Are you sure the click wasn't from your own IP?

Have been in this business too long to do that... :)

1:52 pm on May 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Wonder if a right click and open a new window will cause that?
4:44 pm on May 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I doubt it very much. But someone also reported here recently that Google told them that CPA clicks could occasionally get recorded in the stats.
1:43 pm on May 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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occassionaly? Now how can you get an algorithm or software to do things occassionaly, I think the first thing my computer professor explained me was that computers cannot think , they need specific clear instructions for everything.

Lol, maybe google is pioneering AI in this way, fun to think that the first act of an artificial consciousness is an error.

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jenstar wrote:
...or if there was a day split with the impression showing up on Thursday if it was loaded right before midnight PST, but then the actual click was not made until after midnight.

Conceptually, that makes perfect sense and is probably accurate when referring to when impressions and clicks are recorded. However, wouldn't it be logical to expect that the earnings for such a click would be reported under the same day as the click, *not* the same day as the impression? To illustrate, let's take an extreme example - I view a page on May 29 which shows AdSense ads, then open the same page on June 4. Both instances of the page show the same ad. I click it on one of the pages. How would Google know which impression to associate it with and why would they back-date the earnings to the impression instead of associating with the click? Just my 2 cents.

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You are lucky... I had two free clicks.

Imps: 33
Clicks: 2
Perc: 6.1%
Money: $0.00

(this is on a brand new site, that is why only 33)

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I would have guessed that it was a PSA.
10:11 pm on May 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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PSAs haven't been included in the clicks for months now.
11:51 am on May 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I now have 4 today.

I also have - only 2/3rd of my expected page views for yesterday and 1/2 average revenue and clicks.

I've just double checked my sites and their publisher id's etc, all is good on my side. Nice to know I'm not the only one... I don't run PSA's.

What's up with adsence?

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I have not seen this, my stats are usually (hopefuly) clogged with numbers by the first early morning update, but it makes me quite angry that this is going on.

None of us signed up for adsense to give freebe ads and send off our traffic that we worked hard to get to be taken off somewhere else for nothing. Adsense provides money for traffic, and paying $0.00 is frauding publishers by taking something and not paying for it.

I see no good explination for this and why it has happened. I am very upset that google feels they can just take some traffic and not reimburse the publisher. What is the minimum adword? 5 cents? If it were less than .01 that would make it less than 20% revenue sharing if it was not showing up because it was .005 or something.

Unless a techincal explination for this exists such as a stats update time, etc, I am very upset Google feels they can abuse publishers in this way.

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Chiming in on this a bit late...

Back in March, the AdSense team changed the payment system to provide more detailed reports. After the update, invalid clicks were made visible in your reports - so any click that earns $0.00 is one that's been deemed invalid. PSA clicks aren't included in the reports as clicks (though PSA/alternate ad impressions are listed as impressions).

ASA.

9:19 pm on May 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Thanks AdsenseAdvisor.

I'm confused as to how showing these invalid clicks in the stats helps anyone though?

Unless there is a way to filter them out it gives me a false view of clicks and earnings per click.

Is it all invalid clicks? or just a certain subset?

I know the 0c clicks in my case were not self clicks - what other types of invalid clicks are there?
I can think of a few - such as micro-second back clicks and multiple in timeperiod clicks... but this is just conjecture.

Sorry - asking more questions here than were originally posed.

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How do I see an invalid click? I only see daily totals.
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Ditto on the "what's an invalid click?" question. Like gethan, mine was not a self-click - would be interested to know what the other criteria are.

As a sidenote to ASA, if you've been tweaking the targeting code in the last few days then it's working - geo-targeting seems to be on topic right now - thanks! :)

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How about we start with the basics....... what is defined as an "invalid click"?

I have been with adsense for quite a long time and I still do not have a clear answer on that one. I have a feeling that clicking my own ads may be included.........but what else?

If the technology is able to filter out invalid clicks, why are more and more people being booted for invalid clicks? they are not making any money off of it if the technology is catching it.

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Hi,
Just to add credibility to this thread I had my first free click yesterday. I think it is a bug in the system and not an invalid click. I know of other bugs with adsense and am starting to get disappointed at google. I think when it comes to money matters it is a good idea to make sure the software is bug free. As a programmer I know this is not easy but can be achieved by hiring the right programmers. When introducing new features a well ran organization can always revert to an older version when a bug is reported with a new version. I did not expect this from a company as popular as google.
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a1call: AdsenseAdvisor is an official representative of googles adsense program. If s/he says it's an invalid click - then I believe them.

My inital thoughts were that it was a bug as well though.

But I cannot see any point in showing invalid clicks in the stats - unless there is an option to filter out these clicks. Which will then bring threads on along the lines of "how do I reduce the number of invalid clicks?"

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Hi

I think it's because we can use 3rd party stats to log clicks, we can then compare those to googles figures.. If we all started see'ing google recording a lot less clicks, then users might kick off and think google were trying to hide clicks etc etc.

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AdsenseAdvisor is an official representative of googles adsense program. If s/he says it's an invalid click - then I believe them.
I'm officially from Florida, near the Everglades. Want to buy some swam... er, um, land? Seriously, if AA says it's an invalid click, you should NOT believe him because he is an official of Google (not the other way around).

I've never once clicked on and ad of mine nor am I in a field where others would. However, on 4/23 when Adsense was showing PSA's across the entire netwrok, I had several channels shows clicks for 0.00. This is either a bug or PSA's count as clicks.

Nothing against AA here. I'm certainly not saying he is lying, just saying that his interests and yours are not necessarily the same.

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> you should NOT believe him because he is an official of Google

Since April 1 and Gmail - I believe everything google says ;) I understand your scepticism though.

> I think it's because we can use 3rd party stats to log clicks, we can then compare those to googles figures

Good point davidc - I agree this could be the explanation.

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I had installed a Adsense-monitor sw on my Adsense site.

It had only a few dozen clicks per day max, so it was easy to check for any discrepancies.

My experience was the Google accurately tracked clicks. It would not count two clicks from the same IP on the same time, twice (which is corrent).

Also, in some rare cases, my stats showed 1 more click, which I attribute to the user doing a RIGHT-click on the ad (due to the nature of the tracking script, it can't distibguish between the two).

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HI again,
I thought about this and it could be invalid clicks after all. If person X goes around different sites fast and clicks on one ad per site multiple clicks will be invalid. My apologies.
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Adsense Advisor do you have a "no room for interpretation" definition of an "invalid click". I know a lot of us get bent out of shape on what is an invalid click, especially with these "free/invalid clicks" showing up.

If google can filter out invlaid clicks like this and not count them, why not block the IP from paying clicks all together and not toss people out for questionable reasons?

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One of my channel reports shows a day with 5 clicks and $0.00 in corresponding earnings. The channel is for a section of a site that has been showing paying AdSense ads for months and there were no reported clicks or earnings for the channel for the preceding day. I thought some other publishers might find this information useful.
 

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