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Friday, May 7, 2004
Waited for a few days to see whether it was a reporting delay issue - apparently not. Didn't sign up to Adsense as a voluntary contribution to society, nice guy though I am...
Lol, maybe google is pioneering AI in this way, fun to think that the first act of an artificial consciousness is an error.
...or if there was a day split with the impression showing up on Thursday if it was loaded right before midnight PST, but then the actual click was not made until after midnight.
Conceptually, that makes perfect sense and is probably accurate when referring to when impressions and clicks are recorded. However, wouldn't it be logical to expect that the earnings for such a click would be reported under the same day as the click, *not* the same day as the impression? To illustrate, let's take an extreme example - I view a page on May 29 which shows AdSense ads, then open the same page on June 4. Both instances of the page show the same ad. I click it on one of the pages. How would Google know which impression to associate it with and why would they back-date the earnings to the impression instead of associating with the click? Just my 2 cents.
I also have - only 2/3rd of my expected page views for yesterday and 1/2 average revenue and clicks.
I've just double checked my sites and their publisher id's etc, all is good on my side. Nice to know I'm not the only one... I don't run PSA's.
What's up with adsence?
None of us signed up for adsense to give freebe ads and send off our traffic that we worked hard to get to be taken off somewhere else for nothing. Adsense provides money for traffic, and paying $0.00 is frauding publishers by taking something and not paying for it.
I see no good explination for this and why it has happened. I am very upset that google feels they can just take some traffic and not reimburse the publisher. What is the minimum adword? 5 cents? If it were less than .01 that would make it less than 20% revenue sharing if it was not showing up because it was .005 or something.
Unless a techincal explination for this exists such as a stats update time, etc, I am very upset Google feels they can abuse publishers in this way.
Back in March, the AdSense team changed the payment system to provide more detailed reports. After the update, invalid clicks were made visible in your reports - so any click that earns $0.00 is one that's been deemed invalid. PSA clicks aren't included in the reports as clicks (though PSA/alternate ad impressions are listed as impressions).
I'm confused as to how showing these invalid clicks in the stats helps anyone though?
Unless there is a way to filter them out it gives me a false view of clicks and earnings per click.
Is it all invalid clicks? or just a certain subset?
I know the 0c clicks in my case were not self clicks - what other types of invalid clicks are there?
I can think of a few - such as micro-second back clicks and multiple in timeperiod clicks... but this is just conjecture.
Sorry - asking more questions here than were originally posed.
As a sidenote to ASA, if you've been tweaking the targeting code in the last few days then it's working - geo-targeting seems to be on topic right now - thanks! :)
I have been with adsense for quite a long time and I still do not have a clear answer on that one. I have a feeling that clicking my own ads may be included.........but what else?
If the technology is able to filter out invalid clicks, why are more and more people being booted for invalid clicks? they are not making any money off of it if the technology is catching it.
My inital thoughts were that it was a bug as well though.
But I cannot see any point in showing invalid clicks in the stats - unless there is an option to filter out these clicks. Which will then bring threads on along the lines of "how do I reduce the number of invalid clicks?"
I think it's because we can use 3rd party stats to log clicks, we can then compare those to googles figures.. If we all started see'ing google recording a lot less clicks, then users might kick off and think google were trying to hide clicks etc etc.
AdsenseAdvisor is an official representative of googles adsense program. If s/he says it's an invalid click - then I believe them.I'm officially from Florida, near the Everglades. Want to buy some swam... er, um, land? Seriously, if AA says it's an invalid click, you should NOT believe him because he is an official of Google (not the other way around).
I've never once clicked on and ad of mine nor am I in a field where others would. However, on 4/23 when Adsense was showing PSA's across the entire netwrok, I had several channels shows clicks for 0.00. This is either a bug or PSA's count as clicks.
Nothing against AA here. I'm certainly not saying he is lying, just saying that his interests and yours are not necessarily the same.
Since April 1 and Gmail - I believe everything google says ;) I understand your scepticism though.
> I think it's because we can use 3rd party stats to log clicks, we can then compare those to googles figures
Good point davidc - I agree this could be the explanation.
It had only a few dozen clicks per day max, so it was easy to check for any discrepancies.
My experience was the Google accurately tracked clicks. It would not count two clicks from the same IP on the same time, twice (which is corrent).
Also, in some rare cases, my stats showed 1 more click, which I attribute to the user doing a RIGHT-click on the ad (due to the nature of the tracking script, it can't distibguish between the two).
If google can filter out invlaid clicks like this and not count them, why not block the IP from paying clicks all together and not toss people out for questionable reasons?