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Steph

2:05 am on Apr 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hey people,

I have been a silent reader of the forum for quite a while now(very informative). I have a question, what is the possiblility of earning lets say, 2 to 5 dollars a day running adsense. How many hits approx. I know about the click to impressing ratio and all the variables that take affect when calculating something like this. I would just like a ball park figure. The reason I ask is because I run a website that gets a small amount of traffic. Paying the hosting cost with money generated by adsense would be great. I just don't want to put ads on my site for no reason, possibly annoying my visitors. By the way this is a content driven site.

Any replies would be greatly appreciated

robotsdobetter

2:07 am on Apr 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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It really would depend on how mush Google pays you and the cost per click.

Steph

2:17 am on Apr 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Maybee, some people from experience might give me a ball park figure. I would just like to know if you need 1000 or 20000 hits a day. I guess just how feasable it is. The site is targeted to one specific thing.

europeforvisitors

2:20 am on Apr 8, 2004 (gmt 0)



Ballpark figures are meaningless, because a click could be worth a few cents, several dollars, or anythig in between. The only way to find out what you can earn with AdSense is to enroll in the network and place the AdSense code on your pages.

Steph

2:24 am on Apr 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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You right, I kinda knew it was a dumb question. But eh worth a try.
Thanks anyways.

FromRocky

2:25 am on Apr 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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For $2 to $5 a day, you need one hit to 200 hits a day.

Steph

2:28 am on Apr 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Wow Fast answers on this forum....Might as well just be in a big chat room.

Rodney

2:52 am on Apr 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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it's probably worth your effort to just test it out on your site.

The ads are just about the least "annoying" addition you can add to your site (as far as advertising goes).

Try it out for a few weeks, test a few different ad placements, and if you don't like the results, dump it and move on :)

steve40

2:53 am on Apr 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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well take some realy low figures and anything else is a bonus
5000 page views / 1% ctr = 50
50 X lowest click 5 cents = $2.50

so with 5000 page views you should get $2.50 per day everything else would be a bonus

People would hope they achieved higher than this so anything else is a bonus
steve

Steph

2:54 am on Apr 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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OK will do. I will post the results, well my satifaction level to no violate the TOS.

Sunflux

6:23 am on Apr 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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From looking at my reports, it would appear that the lowest value click has possibly gone lower.

Personally, I don't think there should be ANY discount on 5 cent clicks. That's already rock bottom.

natto

1:49 pm on Apr 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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A content driven site that shows around 1,500 pageviews per day should, from experience, do what you want it to do with Adsense.

Go for it, it's possible to cover your hosting sooner than you may think.

loanuniverse

1:56 pm on Apr 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Personally, I don't think there should be ANY discount on 5 cent clicks. That's already rock bottom.

Have you seen any clicks getting you less than 3 cents?

John_Caius

1:59 pm on Apr 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Yes, but plenty of clicks that earn more!

loanuniverse

2:09 pm on Apr 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Getting discounts on the $0.05 ads does not make sense to me.... Hasn't anyone heard of a floor?

Even the other ad networks wouldn't offer $0.05 CPC. Of course their CTR is horrible, but really.....

jdancing

2:09 pm on Apr 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Why not sell one banner at $5/M impressions. If your site is highly targeted in a competitive industry you should get this or more.

5000 views per day = 150,000 views per month

So a banner on a site like this would pull in $750 per month or $25 per day. Beats $2.50 per day and you don't have to worry about click throughs.

FromRocky

2:33 pm on Apr 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Getting discounts on the $0.05 ads does not make sense to me.... Hasn't anyone heard of a floor?

Discount for $0.05 is $0.04. That is what I see on the cost of AdWords content targeting.

caspita

7:03 pm on Apr 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Why not sell one banner at $5/M impressions. If your site is highly targeted in a competitive industry you should get this or more.
5000 views per day = 150,000 views per month

So a banner on a site like this would pull in $750 per month or $25 per day. Beats $2.50 per day and you don't have to worry about click throughs.

Which network do you recomend for that medium-low traffic and allowing you to get in?

I had been looking something like that but the most of the networks are asking 10 times # impressions per day you are talking about...

CS.

conroy

9:25 pm on Apr 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Which network do you recomend for that medium-low traffic and allowing you to get in?

adsense

Loony

2:30 am on Apr 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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well take some realy low figures and anything else is a bonus
5000 page views / 1% ctr = 50
50 X lowest click 5 cents = $2.50

This seems really low. Steph, I don't think I would base my decision on this. Of course, there is absolutely no harm in trying it out. Any revenue is, after all, revenue.

jdancing

2:58 am on Apr 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I would not run a banner on any network. I would put and ‘advertise link’ with your rates on your site. (make it searchable so the right advertisers find your rate page) Then buy some software for around $100 that will provide automated impression and click tracking for you and your advertisers.

As you get more traffic, this software will help you start rotating multiple banners multiplying your money. Why use a network when you can have all the money for yourself?

It's not much work at all when set up and instead of a few bucks here and there you can make hundreds of dollars a week on a busy well targeted site. Too many webmasters are happy with nickels when they can make dollars.

jaxomlotus

4:10 am on Apr 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I saw a click worth .02 cents so far. That's when I decided to remove all adsense ads from my site.

clearvision

4:44 am on Apr 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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What $100 software programs would suggest?

esllou

11:22 am on Apr 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Why not sell one banner at $5/M impressions. If your site is highly targeted in a competitive industry you should get this or more.
5000 views per day = 150,000 views per month

So a banner on a site like this would pull in $750

woah! what banner ad network are those figures from? If you use tf or burst or fastclick, you will get $2cpm max. for a 468 banner....of which they will keep 40-60% for themselves....so your $750 then becomes around $150.

selling ad space yourself on a site so small is going to be one long wait too.

jdancing

1:46 pm on Apr 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I said don't use a banner network or any network. Do it yourself and keep all the money. Where I advertise, I am lucky to get under 8/M impressions and they don't go through networks.

annej

4:00 pm on Apr 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Steph, You should be able to make some good spending money with the number of page views you are talking about. How much kind of depends on your topics. I find adssense has good matches on some of my topics and others topics don't get ads that would interest my visitors at all. I don't think it's for lack of appropriate ads but because their algo doesn't seem to be able to figure out good matches.

natto

5:19 pm on Apr 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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As a side note to help Steph decide on whether AdSense is worth signing up for, I decided to use it as the ads on the site were relevant to the content.

Previously, I had refrained from advertising as I didn't want ads for casinos on a creative writing website. The ads on my site are for proof-reading services, writing courses, writing holidays, creative writing software etc. I see them as a benefit to my readers.

europeforvisitors

5:32 pm on Apr 9, 2004 (gmt 0)



Previously, I had refrained from advertising as I didn't want ads for casinos on a creative writing website. The ads on my site are for proof-reading services, writing courses, writing holidays, creative writing software etc. I see them as a benefit to my readers.

I had AdSense on my writing-related site, and it kept displaying ads for subsidy presses, book doctors, and other services that prey on aspiring writers. I think there are some topics like writing, health, and finance that don't lend themselves to advertising unless the publisher has direct and complete control over the ads that run.

Steph

8:04 pm on Apr 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Sorry for the late reply, I thought the topic was dead... I'm definitly going to run it, in fact I already signed up. According to my calcs, this will cover my hosting cost at the least.(I don't pay to much to begin with). The only reason I choose adsense is to run text ads that may possibly help my visitors and not bother them. I'm not looking to get rich so this could be perfect. Plus I have a certain trust in google that banner networks don't, to me necessarily have.

Thanks for the help

natto

7:49 am on Apr 13, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I had AdSense on my writing-related site, and it kept displaying ads for subsidy presses, book doctors, and other services that prey on aspiring writers. I think there are some topics like writing, health, and finance that don't lend themselves to advertising unless the publisher has direct and complete control over the ads that run.

Very good point. I'll review the ads on my site and look out for these. (Amusing side note - it's not against the TOS to ask people to NOT click on the ads is it? :) )

Steph, good luck with AdSense.