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AdSense's new and improved matching

Keywords in ad now have weight?

         

Sunflux

11:39 am on Apr 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Now, not being an AdWords advertiser, please correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the basic idea is an advertiser writes an ad and specifies specific Google keyword searches on which the ad will appear.

This idea translates to content sites also by keywords: if a page contains a certain number of keywords, AdSense finds ads that should appear for those keywords and displays it. This is, of course, extremely simplified.

Now Google comes out with this "new, improved" content matching which, as many of us have seen, is anything but. After a few days looking at all these irrelevant words, I'm beginning to see a pattern. I think that Google's "improved" system is trying to outguess advertisers and is now matching ads to sites based on the actual CONTENT of the ad, rather than just requested keywords.

So if an ad says "Discount Acme Widgets - low prices and big selection!" and they specify keywords "widget, Widgeco", that ad will not just appear on pages talking about widgets and Widgeco. It will now also appear on pages talking about other Acme products, and discount products in general.

So far I'm not sure whether all ad text is taken into account, or just the title. Also, it seems that this "broader matching" is currently done in rotation - some entire series of ads will match the normal required keywords, while others will instead be a broader match to keywords found in the ad copy.

This might work well in SOME situations for trying to match ads to content, especially if the advertiser can't figure out the right keywords to use, but in other situations it's a nightmare.

Me, I'm seeing completely unrelated ads that nonetheless contain a few crucial keywords in their titles that match my site overall. Since I've never seen these ads prior to Friday, I'm assuming their owners were smart enough to pick appropriate keywords. Google, on the other hand, figures those guys don't know what they're missing, and somehow came to the conclusion that my visitors would be interested.

Now, perhaps this was done in a limited basis in the past, as part of a complex formula, but I'm now seeing ads that blatently could ONLY be matched to my site based on their title... and also possibly by IGNORING advertiser required keywords.

europeforvisitors

12:23 pm on Apr 5, 2004 (gmt 0)



I don't know what they're doing, but the results are sometimes wildly off-base. For example, in a multi-page article on a luxury hotel in a popular European city, the Adsense leaderboard on a page about dining was displaying four ads for "menu covers" last night. The word "menu" is used once on the page, buried in a paragraph about halfway into the main body text. Mismatches like this are a throwback to the bad old days of last fall, when an article about Munich's Oktoberfest was displaying ads for beer kegs and the "SudsBuddy beer cooler."

Graham

1:53 pm on Apr 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Until recently (the BIG Adsense change) I only had to block a couple of unrelated url's to my site. I had been pretty happy with the way that the adverts were matching.

Over the weekend, I have nearly used up all available (200) entries in the URL blocker, trying to get rid of completely unrelated adverts.

How do Google manage to relate "Wedding Stationary" to a "Database" related site is completly beyond me...

jbgilbert

2:18 pm on Apr 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Similar experience here... Since Nov of 2003, it seems that Google is going backwards?

I read a quote from a Google employee in some article a while back and I remember it saying (pharaphrased) "... we try a lot of things... some work ... some don't".

There is an "ole country saying" that goes like this: Throw enough s^%! at a wall and something will stick.

This saying, when used, was not used to compliment!

Roomy

2:46 pm on Apr 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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when an article about Munich's Oktoberfest was displaying ads for beer kegs and the "SudsBuddy beer cooler."

These seem like eminantly good matches for the content, one might have expected matches on Munich the city and or Bavaria as well. I would be interested to know just exactly what sort of matches you were expecting to find, for an article on a huge festival...that revolves entirely around beer...

(A German resident)

alika

3:04 pm on Apr 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Well, I saw a featured article on europeforvisitors (you're a star, man!) and one of the ads was titled "The Billionaire's Secret" from a hedge fund investing site. A very interesting match, indeed :o)

europeforvisitors

3:20 pm on Apr 5, 2004 (gmt 0)



Roomy: I'd expect travel-related ads for Munich or Germany, since I operate a travel-planning site. Heck, even an ad for Oktoberfest-related merchandise might make sense. But ads for kegs, tapping equipment, and beer coolers seem just a little irrelevant to my readers--which is why I've often said that AdSense should allow publishers to supply "helper" keywords (either positive or negative) in cases where the algorithm consistently does a poor job of ad matching.

Alika: That "Billionaire's Secret" ad sounds like a taunt after what's happened to my EPC and revenues in the last couple of days. :-)

rravenn

3:49 pm on Apr 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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which is why I've often said that AdSense should allow publishers to supply "helper" keywords (either positive or negative) in cases where the algorithm consistently does a poor job of ad matching

A good idea EFV, but a lot of work to impliment on each page. I looked at that page and can see what you mean... wayyyyyyy off target on many things.

Next time you are in Munich... sticky me... I could do with a beer after all this!

RvN

europeforvisitors

4:00 pm on Apr 5, 2004 (gmt 0)



Next time you are in Munich... sticky me... I could do with a beer after all this!

Or maybe a "beer cooler"? Come to think of it, maybe that SudsBuddy beer cooler was like a wine cooler, made with beer instead of wine. :-)

Roomy

4:13 pm on Apr 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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"Makes mental note to order more beer"

ken_b

4:32 pm on Apr 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Matching has gone downhill as far as my site is concerned.

For instance, on a page about classic and antique Pontiacs I sometimes (not always, thankfully) get 5 ads for new Ford trucks. This is perplexing. The words Ford and truck are not used anywhere on the page

But worse than that are the bad credit/credit repair ads that appear on similar pages. LOL... like anyone who can really afford to play in the antique and classic car hobby is going to need credit repair.

I have succeeded in getting different ads on some pages just by moving around the text surrounding the ads a bit. That's helped some, butnot enough.

icedowl

4:44 pm on Apr 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The targeting on my sites range from very good to flakey. I'm still seeing odd ads that are way out in left field. What do gorillas and cosmetics have to do with food?

EPC is still at rock bottom, at least in the morning.

FromRocky

4:12 am on Apr 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I should write an eBook about 100 bizarre, weird and funny ads which Adsense has shown on my web sites! I want to sell it through AdWords with content targeted option. Does anyone want to buy?