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I wonder what Miss Manners would think about this?
I think if AdSense made it easy to report a publisher who was violating the terms/policies/faq the number of violation reports AdSense would increase dramatically. But there isn't an AdSense spam report set up in the same way there is for the natural serps or even for the actual Adwords themselves.
I emailed the contact address and said something like "Just a friendly heads up, this violates the TOS and if someone reports you, you could get booted from the program."
He replied the next day with a kind thank you, and when I revisited the site, he'd removed one of the ads.
I couldn't let that one slip by as i advertise on adwords as well and i would be REALLY upset if that is how someone found out about my products.
Someone wrote me asking if I would be interested in runing Adsense ads for them (evidently they didin't know I already participated in Adsense). They said they were an "independent reseller of Adsense ads" and were offering to pay in advance for my available advertising space.
I was insulted. Someone eager to take advantange of my site, without even really evaluating it first. They didn't seem to be especially knowledgable about my topic. Clearly they had just been to Adwords, found which topics had more expensive key words, and then went to those types of sites offering their "reselling deal".
I eagerly forwarded the email to Adsense. They confirmed that there was no such thing as a Adsense reseller. I can only hope that they yanked this person's Adsense account.
i wonder what was you doing in warez site or maybe you think its ok to download from these sites but its not ok for these sites to host ads i am no saint but i wouldnt grass anyone up because i find most of the webmaster who pretend they are such good boys often visits these sites for thier needs.
Well, that depends since NOT every site is tied to the same TOS. Google might have already lossened some rules on a few publishers.
If few were approved to put AdSense on search result and some were allowed to put two ads, do you report them as well?
I guess we should let the Google police their own program, not us.
I've got ads on internal search results pages on my website, because I wrote and got permission. (Though Adsense seems to find it very difficult to find ads for these pages.)
I hope people aren't going to report me...
Woah nelly take a chill pill. Search for anything on google and you will find "warez".. I just so happened to be looking at log file analyzers and when you search for "webtrends 8.1 linux" you find warez sites and one of those had adwords running on it.
Geez.
I'll report any site that is using adwords to profit off illegal activities or major violations of the TOS.
If its someone running double ads or doing something slight, then a friendly email to the webmaster is due.
However blatent violations and illegal activities no matter HOW they are found shouldn't be sponsored or supported by adsense/adwords.
I'll report any site that is using adwords to profit off illegal activities or major violations of the TOS.
I think you meant AdSense. Let us know if the same site continues to carry the ads after you have complained. I got a plagiarist's page taken out of the SERP but I did not get a cent for the ads clicked on that page. I even sent in an admission from the guy in question "explaining" why he had copied it.
If you follow chillingeffects.org, you will see warez sites taken out of the SERPs upon a complaint from the copyright owner. I doubt that your complaint will achieve the same result and the publisher will probably get to keep his earnings.
You could compare this to a rogue bill-poster who sticks your posters in embarrassing places. You get your customers, even if they had seen your poster in a brothel; the bill-poster gets paid; the fact that the brothel is illegal is neither here nor there.
Offline it's the cops, the corporations with their governance and rules and regulations with their follow-through processes, your door lock or fence, etc.
As well online as off - someone who establishes value installs secuity measures along the way to some extend.
First and foremost I would trust those measures to dynamically grow along with the threat and just work the way they are supposed to.
But would I stay put when someone really messes something up and chances are they get away with it, harming others and/or their efforts?
This is where solidarity kicks in and I would suggest this to be a judgement call. I would not watch someone destroying other fellow webmaster's values (cuz this is what would happen if integrity of AS suffers) and keep my mouth shut, no sir.
I am not a referee in this whole game but I am a social citizen. Someone takes advantage over someone else, be happy when they're caught.
Someone really destryoing other's dignity or what not: jump into their brain or report.
Again, a very clear: depends.
Jens
Just like if i see someone breaking into someone elses car, or someone stealing stuff from the office - I'm not going to site by and let it go.
People who use adsense outside of the scope of its TOS are adversely affecting people using it legally.
If there is one thing worth fighting for, it is the fight to keep Adsense a quality network.
I don't go around policing it, that isn't my responsibility - However if i see blatent abuse or illegal activities you bet your farm i'm reporting it because i play on both sides.
I certainly hope google adwords doesn't fall the way of the bills posted on abandoned buildings because i don't consider my hard work to be a brothel or abandoned website just looking for abuse - nor do i consider my hard paid advertising dollars to be treated as such.
Its not only an opportunity to help the webmaster and Google, but also an opportunity to form a business relationship with that webmaster by establishing immediate trust. Afterall, the web is one big partnership of links and the more you have the better position you are in. Case and point...look at Google. How many links and web pages do they have in their database? Billions! That's why they are number one. And that's how Yahoo got started too with their directory. It all about creating exposure for your fellow internet partners. The better you are at it the more successful you will become.
i dont think we have farms in London but any way i rest my case no point saying same thing over and over again as the saying goes
Dont argue with the fool because he will bring you down to his level and beat you with his experience.
sajjid :
and being rude to other members is against the TOS and plain rude.
fyi There a 17 city farms in london
DaveN
These crap sites are robbing advertisers of their money. If you saw a bank robbery in progress wouldn't you call the cops?
This as been hit around so much it's silly, some people will report and other won't....There is no wrong or right in this it just other peoples personal believes.
Amen!
Maybe Brett could start a forum for Webmasters with philosophical questions ;-)
I wouldnt tell on someone, if they can beat the system then all power to them.
That's what might be called the "Enron Philosophy," and it's ultimately destructive to everyone. In the case of AdSense, it's destructive because "beating the system" makes content ads less attractive to advertisers--and that, in turn, leads to lower publisher revenues.
