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Or, can advertisers ban some pages themselves?
It used to be ok not so long ago, and at the bottom, there was even less text then now, only keywords (and I was told by google themselves that it was ok to do so), and I was having relevant ads and a high CTR.
Since the ads were targeted and very relevant, people were interested, and it's not like there was just the google ads to click on these pages, there are other links too...
People were interested in the google ads.
But now, no more ads, just public all the time...
And I'm tired of making changes to the site so that the program works.
Yes I'm one of the people who wants the program to work, it's not just a hobby, it's my salary.
And google told me the ad placement and all is ok, but they always say to add more text, which I did, and did, and did...
It WORKS FOR 2 DAYS then poof!, public ads.
Banning?...
I was told yesterday that the crawler may take many days (and up to 3 weeks) to re-crawl a web site when changes have been made...
So why exactly after I have made some changes, everything was back to being ok and great, then suddenly, they disappear, and back to public ads again...
Coincidence?
Does a high CTR scare them?
There are relevant ads that could appear there, they appear on the homepage, and the same keywords are on these pages where just public ads appear...
Strange...
I just want people's opinion or knowledge here, doesn't mean I don't trust what Google answered me by email, however, I still have many questions, and they may not tell everything also about how the program works, and it's always changing too.
But I hope I'll find a way to make it work at last.
No offense to Google though, they are doing what they can and it's still the best program I've used for my web site yet.
But there are still some things to look at I think...
Thanks,
Me-Uzik
ps: if I need to add more text again, what can I add? lol
It's a backgrounds site!
Somehow they accepted me in their program so there should be a way to make this work!...
If some of you have some ideas of what text I could add, let them come! :)
You might want to look at your pages and see if, for example, a newsfeed is causing PSAs to be served.
Also, if ads are in short supply for the topic of a page at any given moment, PSAs may appear. This is less likely to occur if your site has been around a while and has a clearly identifiable "theme" that helps Google serve default or backup ads that are related to your site's overall topic.
Me-Uzik
There have been many threads here about AdSense stop words:
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Me-Uzik
Me-Uzik
Learn to use Adsense's alternate ads feature to get better mileage out of your space if Adsense isn't supplying targeted ads. You don't have to use it for ads, you can use it for editorial content/links as well.
Check out this thread for ideas:
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And yes, some people have been warned by Google to remove AdSense from particular pages they deemed did not have enough content to it.
Jenstar, the pages not working have more text in fact than the homepage itself.
"Some people have been warned by Google to remove AdSense from particular pages they deemed did not have enough content to it".
They reviewed my site and said it was ok.
Now, I went to see if the images names themselves might have stop words as their filenames, but I don't think so...
I went to see the keywords in the meta tag of the html, the only thing I see could be "256,x,256", the letter X alone...
But the homepage has that too and there's no problem on that page.
Any other ideas?
Thanks,
Me-Uzik
:)
Me-Uzik
Certain words like "terrorist" or "murder" result in public-service ads.
Just for clarification, in my experience certain words can result in targeted, paying, contextual ads not being displayed, but having such a word on your page won't necessarilly do so. I've done plenty of testing on my crime information site and here's what I've discovered:
1. Either the stopword related algorithm has become less strict or my site has been flagged because the percentage of alternate ads has dropped dramatically.
2. It appears that word density may be taken into account.
3. It appears that semantics of either the page or words in close proximiy to a stopword may be taken into account.
4. It appears that some stopwords may be given a higher weight than others (this I'm less sure of than #2 and #3 above).
5. The site is displaying theme-based ads on many pages which had previously shown PSAs/AAs (haven't seen AA used as an acronmy for Alternate Ads, but PSAs/AAs is how I'm going to denote non-paying AdSense ads from here forward on WebmasterWorld).
Unfortunately I don't have time to dig up old posts of mine about my experiences related to PSAs/AAs, but I'll give a quick overview. The site has several thousand pages. AdSense is implemented on a small percentage of pages where I determined that ads would be appropriate and of high relevance. Daily AdSense impressions are well into the 5 figures. In late Summer the site went through a couple of periods of several consecutive days with no paying ads displayed (based on 0 clicks vs. 3 figure clicks and then later based on tracking of alternate ad impressions). Until late last year 40-60% of daily impressions were PSAs/AAs. For the last several weeks PSAs/AAs have only occurred on 3-7% of impressions, with no other on-site factors changing.
These are just my personal observations on a single site. I can't really draw any valid conclusions, but I am quite happy that the stopwords appear to have a much lower impact than they did previously.
That's why I was wondering about the fact that maybe adwords advertisers, just like us publishers, can put some pages where they don't want their ads to appear...
If that's the case, it would be a good thing for publishers to know which of their pages are being banned so that they can do something about it...
If it's the case, without knowing, it results in confusion like you can see in this post!
Some of you are into the adwords program, is there such a thing as banning some publishers pages (not necessarilly entire web sites)?
I hope this time relevant ads will stay for good.
Thanks,
Me-Uzik
That's why I was wondering about the fact that maybe adwords advertisers, just like us publishers, can put some pages where they don't want their ads to appear....is there such a thing as banning some publishers pages (not necessarilly entire web sites)?
Unfortunately, advertisers don't have any control over where their content ads appear. (That's a problem that AdSense will need to address if it wants to attract a broad spectrum of advertisers.)
All of the potential ads for your pages have a set daily spending limit. Depending on the number of available publisher impressions as compared to the number of advertiser impressions it'll take to exhaust their spending limits, there might be a shortage on the advertiser supply side. I don't know if Google makes some attempt to spread the ads equally across potential publisher pages to keep the percentage of PSAs/AAs fairly equal or not, but if they extrapolate data from the first part of the day and see that spending limits will likely be exhausted by 2 PM, they may throttle up the percentage of PSAs/AAs. Whether they adjust that behavior by site, page, or other factors I don't know. If I was in charge, I'd probably favor certain sites or pages based on criteria which included length of time in AdSense, CTR of the site/pages involved for similar ads, publisher $ volume, etc., but whether Google does that or not is just speculation.
richmondsteve,
I didn't know that advertisers have a daily spending limit, in that case, yes it makes sense that it might be a shortage on the advertiser supply side.
Thanks,
Me-Uzik
I didn't know that advertisers have a daily spending limit
Yes, advertisers can specify a daily budget ranging from a few cents to the-sky's-the-limit, and Adwords then tries to spread everyone's budgets evenly throughout the day.
If someone sets a very high budget, their ad will likely appear every possible time. If someone else sets a lower budget, their ads will come and go as Adwords makes its best guess about how to deliver enough clicks to spend their budget but not go over.
