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Asia

7:26 pm on May 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hello,

Is it safe to have too many international traffics (UK, France, Germany, Asia) clicking on adsense ads?

I know YPN doesnt like international traffics. How about google adsense? Do they like excess international traffics or it is fine with adsense regardless of the amount of international traffics?

Cisko

8:21 pm on May 27, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Yes. AdSense accepts unlimited international traffic and will credit your account for all international clicks if those clicks are valid.

leadegroot

1:46 am on May 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Your only 'risk' is traffic from places known top have 'click fraud farms', generally third world countries.
Europe and other first world areas shouldn't be an issue.

mertero

5:59 am on May 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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YPN does not "like" international publishers (that is, we are not allowed to enroll in YPN yet), but I don't think they have anything against international visitors.

Same goes with Google I think. But mind you - referral products pay less for non-US customers!

Hobbs

6:17 am on May 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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places known to have 'click fraud farms'

where is that?

leadegroot

6:44 am on May 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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*laughs*
ok, 'known' is a bit strong, but we all hear stories of sites getting clicking traffic by buying it.
Third world countries are normally named, but I'm not going to be so rude as to do so :)
[back to the OP] The point is that Adsense probably has a good idea of just where these issues come from; if you buy this sort of traffic, or are unlucky and get genuine but suspicious traffic, you could have a problem on your hands.

david_uk

7:05 am on May 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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YPN is still in Beta - Adsense is a mature product. I guess Yahoo want to get it up and running in the US before going global with it.

I can't see them missing out on the rest of the world's traffic. After all, the EU is a bigger economy than the US in terms of GDP. Why would they miss out on that? Google don't, so nor will Yahoo when / if they finish the beta stage of development.

As regards outside the EU/US, Google operates successfully there and so will Yahoo when it eventually locates a map of the planet and finds there is a lot more to it than the US.

That's going to come as a shock. I can imagine the board meeting when some specky geek timorously says "Hey guys, what about th rest of the world? Aren't we missing out?" Everyone turns to him in abject shock and asks what he means. He then explains that the US isn't the only place on the planet, and hey guys - good news! They have money to spend! That bloke will get a pay rise!

Psst - any Yahoo employee's here? Make the suggestion via the staff suggestion scheme and cash in on it before the specky geek does :)

Google don't worry about what country clicks come from as they operate worldwide. Click fraud is a worldwide problem, and that include the USA.

Hobbs

7:23 am on May 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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very funny david_uk

DamonHD

9:59 am on May 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hey,

The problem of US nationals forgetting that anything of interest exists to the east of the NY East River is not new.

One of my clients didn't bother buying the electronic copy of some critical documentation saying that we could "just pop over" to NJ to read the paper copy when we wanted.

Bad enough for us in London, but those of us in Asia were SOL! B^>

Rgds

Damon

21_blue

11:03 am on May 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I can imagine the board meeting when some specky geek timorously says "Hey guys, what about the rest of the world? Aren't we missing out?" Everyone turns to him in abject shock and asks what he means. He then explains that the US isn't the only place on the planet, and hey guys - good news!

You got most of the details right, but not all. The meeting wasn't in a boardroom but in the Oval office, Donald Rumsfeld doesn't have too many specks, and the 'good news' was called PNAC (Project for the New American Century).

Incidentally, if you think this is another of my spoof posts, Google 'Donald Rumsfeld world domination PNAC'.

frox

11:15 am on May 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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YPN does not "like" international publishers (that is, we are not allowed to enroll in YPN yet), but I don't think they have anything against international visitors.

Mertero, they have A LOT against international visitors.

They have been banning sites because they had "too much international traffic".

david_uk

12:09 pm on May 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Incidentally, if you think this is another of my spoof posts, Google 'Donald Rumsfeld world domination PNAC'.

This isn't the forum for political debate but:- Oh dear!

21_blue

12:27 pm on May 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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This isn't the forum for political debate but

Agreed, though there is some relevance for us because the political and cultural background help to shape US corporations' attitudes towards non-US publishers and business.

We can see this through our site in even small ways, such as US visitors emailing us to point out that we have spelled "organisation" incorrectly. In fact, I once asked an Australian website owner why he used American spelling and grammar throughout his sites. He said that if he used international English, feedback indicated that the majority of Americans thought his website was unprofessional because of the "errors" it contained. But if he used American English, feedback indicated that the majority of non-Americans recognised that American-English was being used and accepted it.

This is relevant to the OP's question because, culturally, US corporations may see the American way of doing things as the "right" way, giving rise to a tendency to be less trusting of differing practices outside the US. It might be, for example, that bona fide traffic patterns in some countries might appear suspicious when assessed from a US perspective.

However, if PNAC succeeds we'll all end up doing things 'the American way', so having a different culture won't be a problem :-).

david_uk

8:42 pm on May 28, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I must admit that I've adopted US spellings on my site on the grounds that it's easier to do that than have the yanks "Correcting" me all the time. And it's also been my experience that the rest of the world understands that reasoning.

However, if PNAC succeeds we'll all end up doing things 'the American way', so having a different culture won't be a problem :-).

'Twixt the devil and the deep blue sea it seems to me. On one side we have the corrupt madness that calls itself the EU, and on the other hand we have a crowd that throws darts at a map and wherever the dart lands gets bombed next. Not sure which is the worst option. Bring back the Empire!

OptiRex

11:31 am on May 29, 2006 (gmt 0)



such as US visitors emailing us to point out that we have spelled "organisation" incorrectly.

This is an oft overlooked optimisation technique and I have been guilty myself of it a few times.

I now have several thousand extra visitors per month thanks to the Overture Keyword Selector Tool telling me that my "widget color(s)" was a very highly sought after phrase.

I can tell you I was quite surprised until I realised that it was Joe Public who was entering this term and not the widget trade.

I now try to ensure all description spellings have both the English and American versions...with the American spelling first to keep G SEO happy:-))

Isn't it strange though that Google itself uses mostly English spellings rather than American?

 

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