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afridy

5:45 pm on May 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hai.

from last 3 days there is a big conflict between Adsense Uints and Reffrel banners in my home page.

i have 3 Add unites and 1 reffrel banner. but only 2 add units are displayed. if i take off the reffrel banner then the 3rd add unit come. if i place the reffrel banner again the one add unit missing again.

it seems there is another problem ith reffrel banner. last twodays the banner is also not displayed. what about your banners? please check and tell me!

What could be the prob?

treeline

9:30 pm on May 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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What could be the prob?

Greed?

Not enough space for real content on the page after all those ads?

Do you really need 4 different blocks of ads serving on the same page?

david_uk

9:34 pm on May 19, 2006 (gmt 0)

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You might just find that dumping all but one block actually earns you more money anway.

OptiRex

11:30 pm on May 19, 2006 (gmt 0)



The general consensus of experienced opinion is that david_uk's advice is correct...fewer ads = more earnings.

Most successful publishers only use one Ad unit or one Ad unit and one AdLink.

Your mileage may vary but give it a try for a while.

bouncybunny

1:10 am on May 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Excuse my ignorance, but is this because the more ads you have displaying at once, the more likelyhood are that some of them will be low-paying ads?

Thanks

hyperkik

2:59 am on May 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Most successful publishers only use one Ad unit or one Ad unit and one AdLink.

I'm all for a minimalist approach, but...

After exasperation with the notion that targeted ads supposedly increased eCPM, I added a second ad unit on pages that had previously displayed only one. That seems to make the promise of targeted ads more real - whether I get two targeted ads or a targeted ad and a block of contextual ads. I'm still not actually sure that targeted ads increase earnings, but at least with two ad blocks they no longer seem to suppress them.

Green_Grass

4:06 am on May 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Yes, lower no. of ad blocks may help in raising click value but CTR takes a nose dive...

This may not work for every page...

It is a little tricky getting the right balance..

afridy

11:36 am on May 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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[quote]Greed?

Not enough space for real content on the page after all those ads?

Do you really need 4 different blocks of ads serving on the same page?

[\quote]

Yeh. i am fully depend on Google. i have experimented with searchfeed and clicksor. They all are poor. i also put some software for sale like tuneup utilities form element5 and spyware doctor from regnow. my visitors seems like to buy from the product home page rather than from me:(

moTi

11:49 am on May 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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that's hot:
minimalist approach. close to zero goog ads on your pages. rule: if it doesn't perform, don't show your incapability to your visitors! don't bother your visitors with information they are obviously not interested in. concentrate only on high performing pages and redirect the traffic from your low performing pages to the popular pages. show only ads that earn money!

that's not:
plastering your sites all over with goog ads. makes them look cheap and crappy. makes users ad blind. shows, that you need money so badly, that's unappealing. leave that to your crappy competitors. and in fact, with more ad units, in most cases you earn less through diminishing returns to scale. long term effects because of negative site perception.

afridy

12:06 pm on May 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Moti..

those are some beutifull lessons.
so your advise is to display only 1 or 2 add unit + one reffrel banner?

afridy

12:08 pm on May 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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by the way.. is google says more ad units in a single page will earn less mony?

Green_Grass

1:07 pm on May 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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"those are some beutifull lessons."

Yes.. Very Beautiful .. ;-)

No , I don't think Google gives this advice.

This is from various Senior Members on the forum who have experimented a lot..

If I remove all but one ad unit.. I personally have experiences CTR nose diving as my pages are very long. Then it is not ad blindness that sets in but total eclipse of the ad visibility...

To each his own...

afridy

1:50 pm on May 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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finally!

I have 3 clumns in my page. the middle colum is the most widest and contain actual site data. the right and left side columns have the with of the google skyscraper add unit.

it is like>> ¦ads¦data data¦ads¦

now! which side column will perform best using a skyscraper. right side column or left side column?
it seems google says the left sitde column will perform best! is this information true?

FourDegreez

3:43 pm on May 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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afridy, you can test it by setting the left and right columns to be different channels. See which channel performs better!

afridy

5:03 pm on May 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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ok!

gamiziuk

5:36 pm on May 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Dont forget the "adlink" unit. Put it wide across at the top. Looks like a menu bar.

afridy

5:48 pm on May 20, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hai gam!

yah! i totally forget about this.
will it also considreed as 3 in 1 add unit? it is tooooooooo small no? i hope i can add it as 4th add unit :)

remember my home page is very hight.

stormshield

7:35 pm on May 21, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Hi Afrigy

>yah! i totally forget about this.
>will it also considreed as 3 in 1 add unit?

No it won't

>it is tooooooooo small no?

yes, but it's damn effective if used correctly.

>remember my home page is very hight.

In my opinion Adsense works best on short pages...

danimal

9:23 pm on May 21, 2006 (gmt 0)



>>>The general consensus of experienced opinion is that david_uk's advice is correct...fewer ads = more earnings.<<<

that applies to most of my pages as well.

except for the pages with the highest ctr and the highest epc, that is... 3 small ad blocks above the fold, on one page design in particular, earns better than dozens of other pages all combined together.

ymmv, of course, i happen to be in an industry with enuf advertisers to support multiple ad blocks.

i also have several pages that are really long, so 3 ad blocks can be divided up to show only one block per page fold... which is clearly not an excessive amount of advertising.

excessive for me starts with people designing a page around the biggest ad block there is, and then requiring the web surfer to have to scroll down to see any useful content.

so it's not at all how many ad blocks you have, rather, it's the size and positioning of the ad blocks that really counts.