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Fooling Adsense

Applied with someone else's site and using fake info

         

mailtojitendra

6:22 pm on Jan 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Recently One of my friends to test the system of adsense applied to adsense using the site name which was not his, he applied using a false ID and to my surprise he was selected for adsense. He sees to be happy as now he can put the adsense code in new websites apart from that website and mint Money.The whole incident raised a few questions in my mind:
1. What happens if the real site owner now applies to the Google Adsense PRogram.
2. Can my friend use the code wihtout putting the code into the real website he actually applied for.
3. How does google check the genuinity of the people, weather the site belongs to the real person or not.
4. Is my friend Subjectible to Any Illegal act.
5. How to stop all this.

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Waiting for answers
A Confused Mind

[edited by: Brett_Tabke at 3:47 pm (utc) on Jan. 13, 2004]
[edit reason] please - take personal biz up with google through channels. thanks. [/edit]

Jenstar

6:36 pm on Jan 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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What happens if the real site owner now applies to the Google Adsense PRogram.

Your friend gets automatically suspended.

2. Can my friend use the code wihtout putting the code into the real website he actually applied for.

Possibly, although I would suspect it would raise flags.

3. How does google check the genuinity of the people, weather the site belongs to the real person or not.

Others have said they ran into problems because the whois information didn't match the account information. I assume there are also checks in place when the tax information is submitted, but not sure how that would work for non-US residents.

4. Is my friend Subjectible to Any Illegal act.

It is against the terms, and not only could he lose any of his money, Google could also charge back for all revenue paid out, since he applied using false information. It is all spelled out in the AdSense terms [google.com...]

5. How to stop all this.

If your friend wants to stop it, he should cancel his account (instructions in the terms) and probably never apply to AdSense again. If you want to stop it, contacting the AdSense team should do it [google.com...] or letting the site owner know so he/she can pursue it with Google.

All in all, it is not a smart move to apply for AdSense using a site you are not legally permitted to do so (either by ownership or with the owner's explicit permission).

401khelp

6:49 pm on Jan 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Is my friend Subjectible to Any Illegal act. (sic)

I don't know if he could be subject to any legal action, but his ethics certainly are questionable.

jomaxx

6:56 pm on Jan 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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It's mostly irrelevant what site you apply with (or what identity you apply with) because ANY site you use the code on will be manually checked for compliance.

mailtojitendra

8:10 pm on Jan 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Very True Jenstar, But the fact still remains that that how would google do whois for the website, secondly it was a testing account , i doubt people make money this way for a long time. The question still lies that why did google permit him to put adsense code.

PCInk

8:18 pm on Jan 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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If he used their site address (physical), how is going to get the cheque?

incywincy

8:18 pm on Jan 10, 2004 (gmt 0)

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tell him not to worry too much about google suing him. i would worry more about the real website owner and the law enforcement agencies. isn't this fraudulent?

ChrisKud5

2:09 am on Jan 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I would stay very far away from that person and his websites.

The whole "guilty by association" comes into mind.........

Tell your friend to not ruin adsense for the rest of us who are interested in a positive relationship with Google and the Adsense advertisers, and hope to successfully make some money from the program.

Visi

2:26 am on Jan 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Couple of things...false ID makes it difficult to cash cheques....also think tax departments might have something to say about this?

You asked if illegal....would have to think so since $'s involved...believe the word is fraud?

Would suggest "testing" be limited to things that do not get caught in the IRS net.

mailtojitendra

5:57 am on Jan 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The Points to note:

1.Google does not use Site address to send cheques.
2.The tax department has to do nothing with the adsnese here in pakistan.

jomaxx

7:14 am on Jan 11, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I really don't see the problem. Google don't care and don't have to care about the person's "true" id as long as he or she can act on behalf of the website owner.

As for applying with a site you don't own, so what? You could just as easily build (or copy) a small but fully compliant website of your own and apply with THAT, and then run ads on a bunch of other sites. IMO Google should force every site to be approved in advance of running AdSense ads, but their choice was to put a security system in place that doesn't require that.

I doubt very much your friend will "mint money". Most likely he will (a) earn a very marginal amount of money, or (b) earn a lot of money and get kicked out of the program without ever receiving a cheque.

steve40

1:22 am on Jan 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I just wonder if this will end up " Your Friend"
complaining he got thrown out of adsense and they kept his money and how hard done by he is

div01

1:33 am on Jan 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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2.The tax department has to do nothing with the adsnese here in pakistan.

Adsense is run out of the US and they care about taxes no matter where the payments are being sent. You, I mean "your friend" will probably have to "lie" again to get the money.