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DudeLove

8:09 pm on May 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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"In order to avoid associations with copyright claims, website publishers may not display Google ads on web pages with MP3, Video, News Groups, and Image Results."

I'm not too clear with this, could someone explain?

For example, if I have a page about a band and I embed a video file from Youtube.com and have a Google ad over or under it, is that against the TOS?

bhartzer

8:11 pm on May 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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It's pretty clear. If there's MP3, Video, News Groups, or Image Results on your web page you cannot display Adsense.

You'll have to wait for 'contextual video' to come out before you can display Adsense on a page with video on it.

Rodney

8:13 pm on May 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I think for TOS questions like this, it's probably best to go directly to the source (Google).

You can send them an example page and ask them to review it to let you know if it fits within the TOS.

If we say "sure, it's fine" and you get a consensus here that it's OK, it means nothing if you get banned from Adsense because of it.

Even if others have done it, there are many variables involved, so it's best to go directly to the source.

OptiRex

8:50 pm on May 9, 2006 (gmt 0)



My understanding is that if you do not own the copyright to the video/music/whatever, do not do it.

davelms

8:57 pm on May 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I would certainly ask Google. With an example page. I've had a page accepted before, although I did not directly embed multimedia content in it.

brianng

10:17 pm on May 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Youtube has Google ads on their site.

BigDave

10:33 pm on May 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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What I wonder (though not enough to ask about) is how you would group that clause. For example, "web pages with (MP3, Video, News Groups, and Image) Results" would have a totally different meaning than "web pages with MP3, Video, News Groups, and (Image Results)".

Does the word "Results" only apply to images or does it apply to all those other categories? It would totally change the meaning of things.

pldaniels

10:56 pm on May 9, 2006 (gmt 0)

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That's an interesting point (re grouping clause).

I've emailed google for a clarification on my own site - it'd be a shame to have to remove the adverts since it's actually my highest earning page (the video comes up along with a blurb about the video, the adverts then come up related to the blurb).

Paul.

DudeLove

5:12 am on May 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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"Youtube has Google ads on their site."

Exactly, that was one of the reasons I asked. They don't have it on the "search results" pages, but have it on the pages with the videos.

"What I wonder (though not enough to ask about) is how you would group that clause. For example, "web pages with (MP3, Video, News Groups, and Image) Results" would have a totally different meaning than "web pages with MP3, Video, News Groups, and (Image Results)". "

Right, that's another thing I'm wondering. Because there is a major difference between not being able to display ads on pages "consisting of images" and "consisting of image results". I've seen quite a few wallpaper sites run google ads.

paymeback

7:36 am on May 10, 2006 (gmt 0)



Yer im wondering the same aswell, i want to embed a google video on a blog that has adsense on it.

7_Driver

10:30 am on May 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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"In order to avoid associations with copyright claims, website publishers may not display Google ads on web pages with MP3, Video, News Groups, and Image Results."

Yes that's far from clear - the word "results" muddies the waters a bit.

If it means that you can't have adsense on pages with videos on - then it also means you can't have adsense on pages with images on - since the list contains the words "video" and "image" in the same list.

All the same - I think I'll clarify this with AdSense just to make sure.

davelms

5:20 pm on May 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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What I wonder (though not enough to ask about) is how you would group that clause. For example, "web pages with (MP3, Video, News Groups, and Image) Results" would have a totally different meaning than "web pages with MP3, Video, News Groups, and (Image Results)".

Does the word "Results" only apply to images or does it apply to all those other categories? It would totally change the meaning of things.



Yes. I posted earlier but edited out because I thought it OT. I asked that exact question. The answer was it is the latter, ie Results goes with Image and not the others. Hence my page containing MP3 Results, Links, etc was reviewed by Google and they responded that it was allowable for Adsense.

Demaestro

5:28 pm on May 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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"In order to avoid associations with copyright claims, website publishers may not display Google ads on web pages with MP3, Video, News Groups, and Image Results."

I find image being included in this statement to be unrealistic. Unless you take the addition of the word results to mean that it is a page where the content was the result of a search or request in which the results are unknown to the end user.

But image, I mean crap, I have images in my skin all over the place. I have credit card images, product shots, all the goods. And some stuff to make thigns look "pretty".

On the Youtube note, I have seen vidoes that have Google ads around them and then return to find the video itself has been removed for copyright infrigement reasons yet the ads are still there and are coming from me searching keywords of the copyrighted material. That has to be wrong.

eeek

5:34 pm on May 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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The word results makes me wonder if this line was taken from the Adwords policy. Does it mean SERPS results?

Juan_G

6:54 pm on May 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Davelms wrote:

Yes. I posted earlier but edited out because I thought it OT. I asked that exact question. The answer was it is the latter, ie Results goes with Image and not the others. Hence my page containing MP3 Results, Links, etc was reviewed by Google and they responded that it was allowable for Adsense.


That is to say:

- MP3
- Video
- News Groups
- Image Results

Perhaps it would be clearer if the Program Policies [google.com] on Copyrighted Material said for example, without "results" at the end of the list:

"In order to avoid associations with copyright claims, website publishers may not display Google ads on web pages with Image Results, MP3, Video, and News Groups."

greedy player

3:56 am on May 11, 2006 (gmt 0)



Touchy ground, we need more information, and so many sites like youtube do it.

rhianna

4:38 am on May 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I affiliate with a variety of merchants on Commission Junction and Linkshare.

One merchant has created a video ad and would like me to embed the video ad for "the great widget."

Would this conflict with Adsense?

DudeLove

7:14 am on May 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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"In order to avoid associations with copyright claims, website publishers may not display Google ads on web pages with Image Results, MP3, Video, and News Groups."

Then that brings another question with it. You can't have adsense on pages with Image Results, but you can have it with Images? What does that mean exactly? If you have a site with wallpapers, you can have the adsense code on the page with the wallpaper, but you can't have the code on a page where visitors see the search results of the wallpapers on the site?

flamingpriest

7:57 am on May 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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"In order to avoid associations with copyright claims, website publishers may not display Google ads on web pages with MP3, Video, News Groups, and Image Results."

to my understanding you are allowed to place ads on your website, but you must not place them on the pages that contain the videos.

the german version of the TOS says "but you may place ads on the page that links to areas which contain mp3s/videos"

pldaniels

8:19 am on May 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Even with the Deutsch version, places like YouTube are still technically in "violation" as I see plenty of Google adverts on their sites while watching the videos.

greedy player

4:40 pm on May 11, 2006 (gmt 0)



I got it... they don't allow adsense on sites with the actual video in the same domain however if you link to it from an external location possibly using (embeded /href) then you'll be fine right? hmmm

Demaestro

5:13 pm on May 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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What if the embedded video is from Google Video?

xmetal

2:49 pm on May 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I have ads on pages with video and I see nothing wrong with that. In my case, these are instructional videos that I shot and produced adn they are fully my own.

Isn't there some british fellow that has a business about "How I make $16,000/month on Adsense" and his primary content is video?

I think the goal of that rule is that you don't put ads on pages with content that is not your own, as you might be breaking copyright by displaying that stuff.

I cannot possibly imagine it's not allowed for your own personal content which you own the rights to.

jomaxx

3:11 pm on May 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

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don't put ads on pages with content that is not your own

Or even better, don't steal content from other websites at all. But unfortunately these are concepts most people are unable to grasp.

Demaestro

4:31 pm on May 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Jomaxx I would agree with you, but youttube and google video both have links that provde you with the code to embed videos on your site, they encourage you doing it.

If Google happens to host something copyrighted and then gives me code to embed it on my site then who is at fault? If Google takes down a video for Copyright infringement and I have embedded it, it will simply cease to work.

I am emailing Adsense after this post to get a ruling on my specific case.

Bascically 1 of my sites is a little niche site, there are literally 1000s of Vidoes on Google on it's subject, most are crap. I have embedded a collection of what I deemed the best ones so that anyone wishing to view videos on the subject don't have to wade through 50 crappy ones to see 1 good one.

I hope that they don't rule against me as I get a decent amount of ckicks from these pages. But I would rather ask them and have them tell me to remove ads from these pages, then have them tell me they are turning off my account because I didn't bother to check with them.

jomaxx

5:03 pm on May 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Google encourage you to embed other people's video on your website? I was not aware of that.

greedy player

6:27 pm on May 12, 2006 (gmt 0)



it does :)

xmetal

8:26 pm on May 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

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yes, google video has a pretty prominent way to embed one of their videos on your own site. They give you a nice little box of HTML code for easy integration into your own webpages.

Demaestro

11:06 pm on May 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

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So they approved my pages and gave me this rule of thumb for Videos.

<snip src="google adsense help team">
If you own the videos on your site or have received permission from the copyright owner(s) to display them, then you may place the AdSense code on pages with these videos.
</snip>

Videos on Google with the embed code provided have granted permission mearly by uploading it to Google video or youtube.

Mistra

9:26 am on May 13, 2006 (gmt 0)

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This is the email I received from Google's "Inside Adsense" 2 months ago:


If traffic statistics on video sites are any indication, web surfers have a growing appetite for moving pictures. One of the most interesting aspects of working on Google Video is seeing all the videos that come in, on literally all sorts of topics -- from the air guitar championships to how caffeine works. With so much great content, wouldn't it be great if you could publish this content on whichever site you want?

Last week, we launched a feature on Google Video that allows you to embed Google Video content in your website. Does your site cover films? Show the trailer for Pixar's new movie "Cars" right on your website. Explore Google Video and you'll find a wide selection of content that can be displayed on your site. Here's an example:

Just look for the 'Put on site' link on the video's playback page. It's free, it's fast, and users don't have to download anything to enjoy video right from your site.

Posted by Jon Steinback - Google Video Product Marketing

I was so happy to receive that email. It means I could enhance the content of my site with videos. I was busy embedding some videos at my sites until I found this thread today. :(

I hope I didn't waste my time for the past 2 months.

From my understanding Google encourages embedding of videos. So, I decided to use YouTube's videos at my sites instead of Google's because it downloads faster, smoother, and also allows caching.

But now I am not so sure anymore. I am afraid I might breach Google's TOS judging from some posts in this thread. I don't want to get banned. I don't think I breached any TOS by embedding those videos as I do not claim ownership to the videos. I just added it to my site to enhance the content of my site as suggested by Google's email. It would be cruel if Google bans me for doing exactly what they suggested in their "Inside Adsense" email.

By the way, the source of many videos at Google Video is actually coming from YouTube. You can check at "Link To Video" option at YouTube and it says Google Video is linking to them.

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