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Translating from english to .

German, French, Dutch etc etc

         

adamnichols45

10:39 am on Apr 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Does this work well for sites displaying adsense?

Converting a 100 page site into german will take abit of work as im sure you will all appreciate!

But how will the search engines take it?
and does Adsense see this as duplicate content or not?

Does anybody have some experience with this and did it pay you in the end?

andrea99

11:35 am on Apr 10, 2006 (gmt 0)



Yes, it worked for me. Spanish is the fourth most popular language on the web (Chinese and Japanese being two and three).

My Spanish pages make about 9% of their English counterparts, YMMV... The ads began being served in Spanish from the very first impression. I don't see how this could possibly be considered duplicate content--the words are literally different and most importantly are intended for an entirely different group of people. Even those bilingual wouldn't consider it necessarily duplicate.

I plan to continue to translate pages and keep them on the same site linked at the top with "Esta página en español" and "This page in English." The pages began getting traffic from day one with that link and was indexed by Google in the usual amount of time.

adamnichols45

12:25 pm on Apr 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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excellent reply thanks.

Did you use some translation software?

Im not sure on how to go about it. Should I register a new domain and host the spanish site there or contain it all to 1 big website?

jetteroheller

12:30 pm on Apr 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Did you use some translation software?

Raw translation by software,
worked over by my wife,
I make a final quality control and correction

OptiRex

12:38 pm on Apr 10, 2006 (gmt 0)



Does this work well for sites displaying adsense?

It totally depends on the country and language!

German is very good since it is the most spoken first language within Europe however do not expect what is popular for English "keywords phrases" to be the same.

This quite surprised me for some of our niche construction products in that whereas UK/US advertisers are quite happy to advertise their products, the Germans/Austrians/Swiss do not.

Then again they manage to sell via Adwords other niche products that we cannot even move!

But how will the search engines take it?
and does Adsense see this as duplicate content or not?

No, definitely not.

Does anybody have some experience with this and did it pay you in the end?

We've been doing this for 5-6 years and it has worked however one major piece of advice:

If you are targeting Germany then have your site hosted there. It will be picked up under "Seiten auf Deutsch" "Pages in German" however your really want to have "Seiten aus Deutschland" "Pages from Germany".

Portuguese is also another good language to go for.

adamnichols45

12:52 pm on Apr 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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OptiRex

Thats a very interesting point that you made about having the German site Hosted in germany.

Will that affect ranking much?

Also is any of the translation software any good?
I mean i dont want my new site to look totally silly.

OptiRex

2:29 pm on Apr 10, 2006 (gmt 0)



Thats a very interesting point that you made about having the German site Hosted in germany.

Will that affect ranking much?

In my experience definitely but there are some who would disagree however, in my opinion, they have been the lucky ones who somehow managed to avoid the Google hosted country of origin.

Just as in the UK, ranking at the top will usually place highly in .com however ranking highly in .com does not guarantee a high ranking in .co.uk, .de, .fr etc...

My .cn's and .in's do not rank highly in China or India since they are not hosted there however I do not need them to rank highly in those countries since my products are not for their markets.

One word of caution, check where the servers are when looking for a host! The UK's largest host actually hosts in Germany which is precisely why many .co.uk sites hosted by them do not rank very well for Google.co.uk searches but do reasonably well in Google.com searches.

andrea99

2:35 pm on Apr 10, 2006 (gmt 0)



I used machine translation corrected and proofread by a native speaker though just the raw uncorrected version is enough to get indexed so you can run a week behind on the corrections while Google gets up to speed on it.

I kept the Spanish pages on the same domain because it seems to take forever for a new domain to begin getting traffic from Google.

[en.wikipedia.org...]

OptiRex

3:01 pm on Apr 10, 2006 (gmt 0)



I kept the Spanish pages on the same domain because it seems to take forever for a new domain to begin getting traffic from Google.

Cross link, there's no penalty and you'll be up and running within a couple of weeks maximum.

I used machine translation corrected and proofread by a native speaker though just the raw uncorrected version is enough to get indexed

Good advice. Fortunately I speak several languages therefore I tend to be a bit lazy and use machine translation and then check it over myself to ensure that the technical details and trade nuances are correct, apart from the fact that it does actually make sense.

Though don't ask me to do anything outside of my field of expertise!

andrea99

3:19 pm on Apr 10, 2006 (gmt 0)



Cross link, there's no penalty and you'll be up and running within a couple of weeks maximum.

I have a couple of domains crosslinked with related materials that are still in the proverbial sandbox after eight months and counting. But that's another topic. :)

OptiRex

4:28 pm on Apr 10, 2006 (gmt 0)



I have a couple of domains crosslinked with related materials

How old's the original site or are they both 8 months old crosslinked with each other?

They need to be crosslinked with a well-established site then there should be no problem.

jetteroheller

5:22 pm on Apr 10, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Also is any of the translation software any good?

Only for humor web sites

The translation software will mess up the punch line,
but create other jokes just by bad translation.

andrea99

8:27 pm on Apr 10, 2006 (gmt 0)



How old's the original site or are they both 8 months old crosslinked with each other?

The original site has been online since April '02, has been in the Google index since June '02. Crosslinked site began in Aug. '05. Every now and then I will move a page there with 301 redirect and all Google referrals to that page stop, though older pages on that site get an occasional G referral so the site is not banned or anything. New and moved pages show up in the index and even get a decent PR, but no traffic.