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Sectional Targetting not working

         

anand84

9:25 am on Apr 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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My website has topics of different themes on it. And since I have still linked these pages to one another, I wanted the ads to be very focussed on the page's main content and not on the anchor text words. But I find that inspite of carefully providing the START and END checkpoints and also the IGNORE points, the ads seem to be heavily focussed on one of the keywords in the anchor texts that I have chosen to ignore. Can somebody help me out in this.

londrum

10:38 am on Apr 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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it also takes into consideration all of the links that come TO your page. so if you have links from every other page to that one, then it's going to think they're relevant.

i had the same problem, and got around it by writing some of the links onto the page using an external javascript. search engines ignore external javascript, so it won't even see it.
but if you do that, you will introduce a few new problems - those links won't get spidered.

anand84

1:00 pm on Apr 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Oh my God! I took so much pain in learning PHP to easily link every page with one another. Now, I get this new problem. I do not want my links to go unspidered. Is there a way out on this. I have as of now, filtered a few ads that have constantly provided irrelevant ads. I do not want to add many more which will reduce my CTC.

londrum

1:59 pm on Apr 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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this is how i do it. but it might not be much good for you, though...
if your site is split into four sections, then just include proper links to the four main index pages of each section. and then if you want some secondary navigation to all the non-relevant pages, then include that as javascript.

then include as many proper links to relevant pages as you like.

for the index pages... make sure all the links are written on properly (no javascript). that way it will all get spidered. and include a site map too - and submit that to the search engines.
and use google sitemaps, if you want. because then it will definitely get spidered.

Chapman

2:19 pm on Apr 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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anand84-

How long did you wait to see results after implementing the section targeting? I had the same situation as you and found that it took almost five days before the targeting took effect. When did, however, it worked great!

If you haven't waited four to five days I suggest you do... before tearing everything apart!

Chapman

anand84

3:36 pm on Apr 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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londrum - Thanks for the info, but with the number of themes I work on, I guess that would be difficult for my site. Anyway, I think I will learn a little bit of javascript to get a better thing of what to do.

Chapman - I have been adding pages on a daily basis and found that some topics where the ad- competition is decently high had no visible problems that I talked of. It was those topics with not many competition that I found this problem creeping. Anyway, I have blocked the most frequent irrelevant ads as of now. Let me see if it works.

berto

4:35 pm on Apr 1, 2006 (gmt 0)

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We must remember that section targeting hints serve only to emphasize or downplay. They don't guarantee inclusion or exclusion.

Despite using section targeting (and after waiting a good long while, the suggested two weeks and more), I have seen numerous instances of "ignore" sections being considered and "emphasize" sections being disregarded, especially when it comes to link units. Like so much else with Adsense, section targeting is hit-or-miss, and Google will serve you the ads that it "thinks" best.

anand84

5:30 am on Apr 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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berto,

Could be that your site too has got links like what londrum said; pages with a different theme content pointing to your site because of which your site's ads are getting affected.

jetteroheller

8:16 am on Apr 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I had the same problem with section ignore:
On the start page of one of my sub domains:

Before: one untargeted AdLink from 4

After: 3 untargeted AdLink from 4

I rearranged completely the code sequence of my sites
Now all 4 AdLinks are targeted.

bumpski

1:42 pm on Apr 2, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I found the "weight=ignore sections" seemed to act just like the "ad sections". So I found I had to remove all ignore sections to make unwanted topics go away. Just enclose sections you want targeted, and do nothing to topics you are trying to exclude.

I don't think Google has documented the "ignore" section correctly. My guess is the "weight=ignore" should be replaced with a weighting number, but there is simply no documentation or specific examples. It doesn't work as advertised.