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Cashing an AdSense check in Spain

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Monus

6:58 pm on Dec 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Have been looking at some banks for to collect the money from the check. In spain it can take 3-6 months to recieve the money from the check.
Are there some adsense users from Spain who know a faster way to collect the check.

Mentat

7:30 pm on Dec 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hmm this is wrong!
Max 1.5 months!

After you present the check to the bank, Google's bank must authentificte the transaction :(

I hope they will be fast!

iThink

7:32 pm on Dec 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Open a bank account in USA with any small bank and small minimum balance and FedEx the check to that bank in USA.

3-6 months is a very long time to encash a check drawn from a US bank account, looks like Spain has the slowest banking system in the world.

ronin

8:07 pm on Dec 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Monus, you can't be serious?!
La Caixa can't do it quicker than that?

Monus

8:33 pm on Dec 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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to: ronin
I have not look at La Caixa, need to check that monday.
Do you know how long takes it with La Caixa?

to: iThink
I don't know if Spain has the slowest bank systems, but in many countries are payment with checks not very normal. I had also in holland big problems with collecting the check.

globay

8:59 pm on Dec 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Monus, please tell me what you find out on Monday.

Is there nobody else from Spain, who cashes his checks at La Caixa?

Thanks,

--
globay

killroy

9:05 pm on Dec 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I've found that banks in MAlta can hold the money for 45 days in addition to processing days. I'm not past 6 weeks waiting for a google check to clear.

I'm currently tryign to open accounts with a citibank in europe and perhaps in lforida if I can at PubCon6.

It will be cheaper for me to pay and fly to UK, germany or even the US and cash the check in person, then to wait as long as I have to (I also wait aroudn 4 weeks for the cehcks to get here by mail).

Can't wait for hte new payment options. It's a joke that a company like Google sends paper slips via snail mail to pay it's publishers. I'd like a pice of that pie they accumulate with money liaing around waiting to be cleared...

SN

level80

9:24 pm on Dec 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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These tales of cheques taking a long time to cash seem odd. I live in the UK and pay my cheques into an HSBC account. They clear on the same day I pay them in (which strangely is quicker than cheques from my own country). I receive the cheque and pay it in four days after it's posted from New York (which is quicker than the 5-7 working days it takes to transfer money to a bank account through Paypal).

HSBC do charge a sliding scale of fees (depending on the amount) for paying in foreign currency cheques - but IMHO it's worth it (because of the lost interest if they're taking that long to clear). Which bank in Spain took so long to clear your cheque then?

Oh - and don't bother trying to open a US bank account. I've heard that it's extremely difficult to open a US bank account if you're a foreigner - they ask for social security number etc (which you won't have).

Sunflux

10:26 pm on Dec 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Heh, I'm in Canada and tried out a HSBC account a couple of years ago - they wanted 30 days to clear a US check! At my normal back, they cash all Canadian, US and UK checks (actually that's just what I've tried them on) instantly.

Sense_able

10:37 pm on Dec 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I am in the UK and it is not possible for us to open US bank accounts any more. The US banks are closing their doors to Non US citizens.

The HSBC UK cash cheques on trust that they will not be returned. That is why they will cash the same day. If one is returned they will come looking for the money.

Other secure places to open bank accounts are

Latvia. Bank accounts available in USD Euro GBP. 2 to 3 weeks for US cheque to clear

St Vincent. USD accounts

Then there are your Swiss accounts but they are not guaranteed private and are expensive to run.

Just do a search on Google and you will find a host of people who will guide you through the opening procedure. Or sticky me for the URL of a British firm that helped me sort things out.

Chris_R

10:47 pm on Dec 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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it's extremely difficult to open a US bank account if you're a foreigner

Very true - you need a Driver's License and SSN - then they check you through ChexSystems.

Almost everybank uses them. You may not TECHNICALLY need a SSN if it is a non interest bearing account. However, I doubt any bank manager would make an exception.

My advice would be to call the US Embassy in Spain and ask if there are any banks in Spain that are friendly to US Citizens (many of their employees would need a Bank Account I would presume). Chances are these banks would have better a relationship with the US Banking System as they would need to cater to these clients.

Just a suggestion.

<added>Hadn't read Sense_able's post when I posted this - that is some good info</added>

SoWhat

11:10 pm on Dec 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Banca March = 4 weeks
La Caixa = 4 weeks

mipapage

11:14 pm on Dec 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Banca March

Where is this bank from?

tombola

11:24 pm on Dec 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Spain

killroy

11:29 pm on Dec 20, 2003 (gmt 0)

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level80: I talked to Citibank, and they said, while they can't promise anything, not having an SSN simply means you cannot open it remotely, but only in person. It is mostly a measure to prevent money laundering, similar to the graphical codes you have to type in with online services, to prevent automated requests ;)

SN

PS: I'll try HSBC, that's the only international bank in this country...

mipapage

12:02 am on Dec 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Where is this bank from?

What part of Spain is this bank from? :p

It would seem by their site, islas Baleares?
What a wonderfully non-functional site! (the bank, that is..)



Added

Monus,

have you tried to cash an adsense check in Spain yet? If so, at what banks?

[edited by: mipapage at 12:34 am (utc) on Dec. 21, 2003]

level80

12:22 am on Dec 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Whilst it may be interesting Killroy that they don't need a social security number if you open the account in person - most people living in Europe cashing Google Adsense cheques have neither the time, opportunity or means at their disposal to fly to America just to open a bank account. :) Just a return flight to America from here would be equivalent to two month's Adsense earnings for me.

killroy

1:24 am on Dec 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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level80: Of course it depends on how much your checks are and how urgently you need the money. If it's only a few quid, waiting a month or not won't make that much of a dent in your finances... Right now I sit on several months living and business costs worth in a variet of drafts and checks from my affiliate systems, and I'm slowly starving, both literally and in the business sense... very frustrating...

SN

(PS: Before you get any wrong ideas, I have VERY modest living expenses)

WebWalla

10:36 am on Dec 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Am regularly cashing cheques in Spain and they don't take anywhere near 6 months. Using Patagon, because they offer interest free transfers to other accounts and less commission to convert to euros.

UKFord

10:51 am on Dec 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Haven't banked a Google cheque yet here in England, but previous US cheques take no longer than three days to be converted and into the account with my bank. Pound is very very strong against the dollar :(

JVB_Mktg

11:24 am on Dec 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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It takes them less than 4 hours in BBVA (Madrid). 15€ fee

trillianjedi

12:25 pm on Dec 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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In the UK - 6-7 weeks (HSBC).

They have to mail the cheque to the US for clearing.

TJ

esllou

1:43 pm on Dec 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I have cashed these cheques both in the uk and in italy.

In the UK, I have hsbc account and they put it into my account the day it arrived by post at their branch...so I don't understand previous post about weeks and weeks and having to post it to the states. I could draw on mine the same day! I have had a Midland Bank/HSBC account for about12 years and posted it direct to my branch.

In Italy, I use an online bank called Fineco. They usually clear it all in about 10 days after I have given the cheques to my "personal banker". One time though, Google told me they had paid out and yet, 15 days later, Fineco were telling me they hadn't got the cash. My italian friends told me that italian banks liked to sit on the cash from foreign cheques for weeks for the interest. I though, "i am not having that!" and rang and broke their balls continually for three days until they released the cash. You just need to be on top of these things really.

trillianjedi

1:47 pm on Dec 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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In the UK, I have hsbc account and they put it into my account the day it arrived by post at their branch...

Are you a large customer? Sounds to me like a special arrangement.

We have a seperate business account for AdSense, so not larges amounts going through.

They may take a view given that the payor is google. I haven't asked. But the cheques do end up being cleared back in the States.

TJ

Monus

1:58 pm on Dec 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Thanks for all the respond,

JVB_Mktg
I have been to the BBVA in Malaga. That was one of the banks who say it can take 3-6 months (note, I thit not give them the check, so I don't know how it is in real, I only know what they have told me). The other bank that I have try is Unicaja (thats the bank I use here).
If they pay you in 4 hours then they pay probely in advandce. What they do also in holland (Rabobank).

and I'm slowly starving, both literally and in the business sense... very frustrating...

I have this feeling also, need to wait for the money for to do new things, it take to long before you have the money in your hands. Sending checks by mail is not from this time.

On this moment I send the checks to my mother so that she can cash it in holland. And I get my money in 2 days. But this is not a option that I like.

runboard

2:54 pm on Dec 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I'm in France and have a regular french account (in euros). I believe that the last Google check took 1 or 1.5 weeks to cash. My bank (Credit Lyonnais) takes at least 17 euros as commission per foreign check cashing. I don't know it for sure, but I suspect that it should be easy to open a Credit Lyonnais account from Spain - after all, we're both in EU. If it isn't, what's the point of EU? :)

tombola

4:03 pm on Dec 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Monus, in msg#5 of this thread you say:

I had also in holland big problems with collecting the check.

In msg#25 you say:

On this moment I send the checks to my mother so that she can cash it in holland. And I get my money in 2 days.

Seems these postings are not very consistent, right? ;-)

mipapage

4:10 pm on Dec 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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What a wash!

I can't believe this garbage. I think I'd way rather roll my measly adsense revenue into adwords then give 15-17 Euros to the bank! That and the exchange rate is horrible!

Blech. <leaves room disgusted...>

esllou

5:02 pm on Dec 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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trillianjedi,

no way! it is a current account! no personal arrangements, no business account. run-of-the-mill personal account! maybe because yours IS a business account, they pay more attention to these cheques. Mine was treated as if it was a cheque from my brother!

Was under a grand too...so not big figures, but nothing tiny either. My cheque came through their letter box LITERALLY as i was enquiring as to why it had taken so long to arrive there by post from Italy. So I was a tad happy...

so I then asked the bloke, "I imagine it will be three working days till it clears now?" and he replied, "no, it will go in today." I checked my online balance the following eve and it was there!

odd...

Monus

8:33 pm on Dec 21, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Monus, in msg#5 of this thread you say:
I had also in holland big problems with collecting the check.

In msg#25 you say:

On this moment I send the checks to my mother so that she can cash it in holland. And I get my money in 2 days.

Seems these postings are not very consistent, right? ;-)


Well my english is not good, what I was saying...
I had also in holland big problems with collecting checks. When I was getting my first checks (3 years ago), it was costing me problems to collect checks. The banks in holland where not used to deal with checks from the usa.

right? ;-)

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