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Do Many Innocent People Get Banned? Are they Ever Reinstated?

         

ishika

12:55 pm on Mar 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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hello.i m starting now in this field.but the basic fear i m having is that is that suppose i m everyday seeing good amount in my adsenhse acount and when i m to recive the chequefew days before gogle terminate my account fro no fault of mine it would be very disheartining thing to happen.so i wanted to know do this happen frequently with lot of people who r inocent or it happens in some rare cases.
and if we get banned can we sign up again.and wat all protection do all members take to prevnet this.wat is this smartpricing related to this.plz help me.

sem4u

1:22 pm on Mar 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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If you site is within the terms of service of the program then you should have nothing to fear.

If you do get banned you are out and are very unlikely to get back in again.

trillianjedi

1:25 pm on Mar 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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do this happen frequently with lot of people who r inocent

I've never known that to happen to anyone that was innocent.

The best all round safety measure you can take is to read the Google Terms of Service.

Those are the rules. Break them and you're out. Comply with them and you should be fine.

TJ

ishika

4:17 pm on Mar 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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yes i read but i even know many people grumbling taht they r innocent yet they rbanned for no fault of theirs.so i think it is really a cause of concern.we should start with all basic precautions so if this happen also we should be prepare with our next step.

trillianjedi

4:28 pm on Mar 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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we should start with all basic precautions so if this happen also we should be prepare with our next step.

I don't agree and I don't think this is necessary.

The amount of people that have been kicked from the AdSense program I suspect is absolutely minimal compared to the number in the program. I doubt many of them (if any) were innocent. The TOS seems to me to be quite clear. I think you could spend your time better concentrating on obtaining more traffic rather than panicking about being kicked off.

Is there a particular aspect of the AdSense TOS that concerns you and that we can discuss?

Your question appears to be written in a way that indicates you anticipate it?

TJ

ishika

4:40 pm on Mar 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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No i am not anticipating it but i dont want to put all my eggs in one basket so i am considering if there is any such options which members follows such as smart pricing though i dont know what is it actually.

Nitrous

4:48 pm on Mar 16, 2006 (gmt 0)



Smart pricing is a discount given to advertisers. It means that google assesses your clicks and subsequent conversions etc and decide if your traffic is there because it wanted to be.

Or if it was tricked by blended ads, MFA etc. If you have a genuine well written site that does not hide ads, but does review products well or offer genuinely useful information then you should get good epc. If you are a mfa with a adsense trap, conversion is unlikely so you get paid peanuts! Works for me!

[edited by: martinibuster at 6:42 pm (utc) on Mar. 16, 2006]
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Zygoot

4:51 pm on Mar 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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To answer your question:
Some people get banned but most of them did something wrong. Just follow the ToS and you should be safe. And if you do get banned there's a chance you may get reinstated if you write polite e-mails to Google.

[edited by: martinibuster at 6:45 pm (utc) on Mar. 16, 2006]
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JollyK

4:55 pm on Mar 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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ishika: The main things are, never click your own ads, and never let your friends/family/co-workers click your ads. Several people suggest not even telling your friends and family about the ads: even if you tell them not to click, someone will do it and you could end up with Google thinking you have fraudulent clicks.

Also, follow the Google terms of service and policies regarding content on your website.

Don't put "support this site" or any text above the ads that could incite people to click.

But really, read and memorize Google's policies and you should be fine.

If you get banned, politely email Google and try to find out why, and maybe you could get back in, but probably not. It's just a risk that you take.

Good luck.

JK

oddsod

5:16 pm on Mar 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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ishika, moving on, the consensus here among members who've been with Adsense a long time, have read thousands of threads here, have discussed Adsense with hundreds of other webmasters here etc seems to be that you have nothing to fear if you read the TOS and follow it carefully.

It's unlikely that Google is looking to get rich by stealing $200 you "rightly" earned. I've had a lot of money from Google Adsense over the years. They never terminated my account/s and witheld my money ever.

Andrew Bassett

5:23 pm on Mar 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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If you get banned for invalid clicks, don't "ask Google why" you got banned. That sounds like you're playing dumb, and it's what most guilty people would do.

Rather, email them explaining that you're disappointed and that you feel your site is a victim of a click attack. Say that you're going to revise your website to block ads from IP addresses that your family and friends are known to use. Ask them to reconsider your application when you reapply (maybe in a few weeks).

If you're upset because your site was growing and expanding, that's good. You can use that as a reason for Google to let you back in later. Demonstrate your improvements. Remember, there are a bunch of human beings on Google's end, and they need good reasons to ban websites. Take away their reasons, and they'll feel the pressure to reaccept you.

martinibuster

6:55 pm on Mar 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Does anyone personally know many people who have been banned by AdSense?

I only know of one webmaster, but he readily admits that he screwed up and deserved to be banned.

I find it odd that anyone would know so many people who are banned. Sounds like perhaps people in your circle are following bad advice and not understanding the TOS.

Or perhaps if you're all sharing the same computer...

europeforvisitors

6:59 pm on Mar 16, 2006 (gmt 0)



yes i read but i even know many people grumbling taht they r innocent yet they rbanned for no fault of theirs.

Or so they say. :-)

Tearabite

7:51 pm on Mar 16, 2006 (gmt 0)

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"Or if it was tricked by blended ads, MFA etc. "

I thought G RECOMMENDS blending ads?!

And what about click attacks? i do nothing wrong on my site, but i've already been hit by one mini-click attack (either that, or some guy with that Michal J Fox 'shakey' disease was in his wheelchair at my site and could not control his clicks) - now i live in fear that some 15-year old kid hyped up on Mountain Dew will think it's funny to click all over my ads and BOOM, i'm out.. is this an unreasonable concern?

hunderdown

8:12 pm on Mar 16, 2006 (gmt 0)



Tearabite, yes, that is an unreasonable concern! A number of people have reported Google routinely ignores such "attacks"--just deletes the clicks. Those who have taken the trouble to report it have been told "don't worry we know about it but thanks" or words to that effect.

I've been on these boards for two years and have seen a number of people banned, and it never happened for the reason you described. The most common reason is clicking your own ads, and even then they ignore the occasional accidental clicks. Others were playing games of one kind or another. In some cases we never found out why a poster was banned, because they disappeared before we could get to the bottom of their case (which I took to mean they'd been up to something, had realized they weren't going to get away with it, and so stopped talking about it).

The ONLY truly innocent webmasters who have reported bans had been the victims of fairly substantial and sophisticated click attacks. There have only been a few instances of that, and I think at least two of those were reinstated.

If you live by the TOS and aren't in a bad neighborhood where the competition is prone to launching a click attach at the drop of a hat, you need not put any worry into the possibility of being banned. Google doesn't ban many people and so far as i can tell, the people who get banned deserved it.

ishika

7:58 am on Mar 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I am really thankful to all the members here who have really provided very valulable suggestions to me and have provided me assurance that i just need to concentarte on my work and follow the policy of honestly abiding by the rules of google and then there is nothing to fear.so i would not worry any more and start my work rightaway.Thanks to all the members.

Simran

8:00 am on Mar 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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me too.

:)