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Acquaintance said She Clicked on My AdSense Ads

Today I am Banned from AdSense

     
8:44 pm on Jan 17, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I just put up a second site and so far I only made 100 bucks in my first one.

The second site made me around 60 bucks in 2 weeks and I never had any invalid clicks, but they just banned me.

I told a few people about the site and one person supposedly said she checked many of the ads out -- so maybe she clicked 10 times or so from her computer.

Anyway, what do I do? I just replied to their e-mail, but what are my chances of getting reinstated?

1:59 am on Jan 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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By the way, I did NOT tell this acquaintance to click on the ads. She just offerred to check out the site for any typos before I advertised the site, and she was also interested in seeing the website.

I told her I plan to make money from the site, but never told her how -- and she had no idea about what Adsense is till today.

I replied to Google's e-mail twice today and no response from them so far. Will they respond with a further explanation?

All my ads are now Hurricane Katrina ads.

This sucks. What are my options for replacing those ads with if Adsense never responds to me or refuses to believe in my honesty?

How's the Yahoo ad program?

All my efforts to build this site were futile it seems.

2:20 am on Jan 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Judging by your previous posts in which you were asking just what you could and couldn't get away with, my guess is that you screwed yourself by testing the TOS limits.

At least now you know for sure what you can't do.

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I think there is some sort of a super-duper penalty if there are suspicious clicks early on. Of course, you can get booted at any time, but you need to be especially careful in the beginning.
2:24 am on Jan 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Thanks for the helpful reply btas.

I posted one thread in the past about something I could do or not and followed the advice of board members in the end. I was a newbie so had to post that thread to make sure.

I have never cheated.

Please post something helpful anyone or nothing.

2:30 am on Jan 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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The point is you're following a very common pattern:

(1) Someone is just starting a site and asks for advice on whether they can do things obviously against the TOS.

(2) A short time later they get banned from Ad Sense and ask why and what they can do about it since they didn't do anything wrong.

The answer is almost always that they DID do something wrong, which doesn't come as any surprise given (1).

I've no idea in what way(s) you broke the TOS, but I'm pretty certain you did. Google don't cancel accounts for the fun of it or just out of spite.

2:42 am on Jan 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Well, I don't think it really matters - but the point is Google will be on to you as soon as you even think of doing anything against the TOS. Don't think you can sneak a few clicks at work or have your friends click on ads, they will find out anyway. Do not taunt Google.

If you really learned from your mistakes and want to use AdSense again, the only thing I can suggest is creating an account for a trusted family member or friend and splitting the income somehow.

3:06 am on Jan 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Let me clarify once again:

I had my first site few months back. I asked advice regarding that site here and followed that advice to make sure I didn't go against TOS.

I started a second site two weeks back or so. I got banned cause of this second site. I think its cause my friend clicked on some ads even though I NEVER told her to do so. I just talked to her on the phone and she told me she was genuinely interested in the ads. I was blaming her for clicking 10 times and causing me to lose the ad revenues.

I think you guys are being a bit too suspicious becuase of my question about the first site.

Just think -- I came here and asked if I was doing something dishonest for my first site regarding ad layout. If I was being dishonest, do you think I would have asked on here for opinion? I would have just done it without thinking twice!

Please read that post of mine again to see if it sounds like someone cheating would make that kind of post looking for advice.

Oh well...

So anyone know of people who had their account reinstated?

Can I even expect a reply from google.

What other options do I have now for putting ads? Is Yahoo any good relative to google adsense?

The moral of the story for all newbies:

NEVER EVER GIVE YOUR WEBSITE ADDRESS TO FRIENDS, FAMILY MEMBERS, ACQUAINTANCES.

But then what if a competitor does the same thing and clicks on your site 10 times?

3:44 am on Jan 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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So what if one of your family members or friends clicks on ads throughout your site without you knowing it?

I suppose since its not a new site, they won't ban you for that?

What about if a competitor does the same thing?

3:48 am on Jan 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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What kind of site are we talking about here? Is it a site with content of intrinsic value to users, or is an obviously "made for AdSense" site? If it's the latter, that could be a reason why your acount was disabled. When invalid clicks prompt a manual review, what Google's employees see during the review may influence their decision about what to do next. (In other words, the content may determine whether they give you the benefit of the doubt.)
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Its a site with complete original content (took me 10 days or so to type it all) that helps people with a certain medical problem try alternative solutions to surgery.

I got that surgery myself and decided that side effects are bad at times and so I decided to help people and also make some money.

FYI -- I got two sites (the other one I have given up on and just get a click a day). This new one, I am sure to get at least 10 clicks a day in future as the content is awesome.

Between the two sites, I got an average of 3 clicks per day last two weeks, and 15 clicks or so on the day that my friend saw the site (about two weeks back I think) and stupidly decided to click on ads (and she claimed to me today that she was interested in the ads!).

One other possible explanation is that some of the advertisers are surgeons and I advocate not getting surgery.

Do any of the guys here think it could be because one of these surgeons complained that they don't want to advertise on a site that promotes alternative treatments?

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What if your friends/family actually click the ads and buy from the advertisors? I've known that to happen!

I think it's more likely that a malicious competitor will click-attack your ads than a friend browsing your site. And if your friends regularly buy widget items online, and your site advertises widget ads, they're likely to buy from them.

But I agree about not taunting Google. Don't kill the Google that lays the golden eggs.

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Let's focus on the issue at hand- there's no need to start accusing the OP of anything. We don't need to know what kind of site this is or any other information of that sort. The OP plainly stated that he asked an acquaintance to look at his site and she ended up clicking on all his ads.

Try reading this post, it's incredibly helpful.

What to Do When You are Kicked Out of Adsense
A long step-by-action-step tutorial on your recourse when booted from AdSense.

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Good luck.
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11:31 am on Jan 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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serengeti, did u ever logged into your adsense account from your friend's place?
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how can you say you got banned for the second site? Google never release details of which site it is that is causing problems so if you say it was the second site, then you knew beforehand that illegal things were happening on the second site.

i speak from experience, i had 2 sites, got banned for invalid clicks and it took me 6 months of sending logs/server records and protesting vigorously before they reinstated me but they NEVER told me which site it was that was causing the problem.

they do this deliberately to protect themselves and make yourjob of proving they have made a mistake more difficult.How can you disprove their theories if you are not told what the theory is based on?

as a final point, i agree with the previous post that Google as a corporation is not spiteful or twisted but there are undoubtedly some bitter twisted staff with a small reproductive organ who work inside the organisation...they are only human like the rest of us, ten google reps may not look at your page twice but the small #*$! variety may spend a week analising it and making your life as miserable as possible.

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I just want to raise the point that this is exactly why I don't tell any of my family or friends the address of my websites. They think they are helping you by clicking on the ads and then - poof! You get banned.

Or, one of your friends is not really your friend and they screw you anyway.

Either way, it can really be dangerous to tell people you know about your website, especially if you just started with Adsense and it's the main source of income for that website.

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Serengeti
All my efforts to build this site were futile it seems.

So what you are saying is that you made this site for adsense and not for the content. Then somebody got you banned and you are disappointed that your MFA site makes no money.

If your site has been designed to make money there must be affiliate programs you can join to replace the Adsense ads.

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Do any of the guys here think it could be because one of these surgeons complained that they don't want to advertise on a site that promotes alternative treatments?

Would that be anything considered as illegal or prescription drugs? Adsense Policies says you aren't allowed.

Ska

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I just want to raise the point that this is exactly why I don't tell any of my family or friends the address of my websites. They think they are helping you by clicking on the ads and then - poof! You get banned.

I think it takes a lot more than a few family members clicking on ads to get banned.

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Thank you all for the helpful replies.

uhwebs -- My site is about a medical problem so none of my friends/family will buy anything from the ads since they don't have this problem/condition. Anyway, only this one friend of mine knows about it and if I do get reinstated, I will never tell any of my friends about the site again.

AlexPAlex -- I never logged into my account from her computer as she lives in a different state.

Miguelito -- Now how do I know that she caused this problem and that it didn't occur from my other site? Because I TRACK each page on both sites. the other site has just been getting a click a day for the past month, and that hasn't changed. This site is NEW and has been getting around 3-5 cicks daily I think, but on one day it got 15 or so clicks and she was responsible for the majority it seems.
AND AGAIN I NEVER EVER TOLD HER TO CLICK.

ska_demon, I do have excellent content. However, without income I can't afford to maintain the site and pay for hosting, domain name etc.. Anyway, as I said before, besides helping people, I do have a selfish interest in making money that probably takes precedence since I spend at least an hour or two per day on the site (especially maintaining forum behavior).

I think I got into this mess either because its a new site as someone said and they didn't like the 10 clicks by one person, or because one of the avertisers might have complained that the site essentially discourages their services!

Now I am scared of one thing if I get reinstated or if I join another advertising program -- this "friend" of mine is a girl and we went out a couple of times (not more yet cause she lives in another state). What if things don't work out and we break up? She can start this clicking nonsense again as she knows it pissed me off.

WHY DOESN'T GOOGLE HAVE A POLICY OF NOT COUNTING CLICKS IF MORE THAN SAY 10 OCCUR FROM ONE COMPUTER/IP ADDRESS? WOULDN'T THAT BE BETTER THAN BANNING PEOPLE?

Thanks again for all your help, especially that link from martinibuster.

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serengeti, this is a list of the locky ones that were reinstated into Adsense I have put on a while ago:

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2:38 pm on Jan 18, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Nice find. Maybe that could be added to the Library.
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Definately plead your case to $G, but there are plenty of other ways to monetize your sites. Most take more work than adsense so if you are looking for easy money...

YPN- definately try to get set up with them. Even if they don't pay as well the ads are still contextually targetted requiring very little work to implement.

A few other suggestions:

Amazon- TONS of alternative medicine books, DVDs and products to push.

The affiliate networks also have tons of health, diet, and other related programs that can be used to bring in some cash.

Banner networks- most don't pay worth a hoot, but half a hoot is better than no hoot at all.

The last three examples are all a LOT more work to successfully implement, but can bring in more than enough to justify the time.

Even if you do get reinstated, make sure you look at and use all the options available to diversify.

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Thanks for the revenue sources listing. I am not a good programmer/web developer but a good writer of relevant content. So I am reluctant to try anything besides Adsense and YPN for now. Programming just makes me start pulling out my hair:-(

Anyway, now I got another question because of the advice regarding setting up YPN asap. The adsense code on each page of my site which became Katrina ads is now showing up as:

"You are not authorized to view this page."

So, if I sign up for YPN, will they see that mesage when they check out my website and become suspicious?

I won't remove the adsense code until Adsense gets back to me hopefully so maybe I should wait to apply to YPN until I remove the adsense code in order for them not to get suspicious?

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Remove the adsense code now. There is no reason not to, and I'm sure having that error box looks like cr@p to your visitors.

Freq---

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Ok..I have it on every single page though and forums so its tedious and I am hoping google gets back to me with a decision asap.

Do you guys put adsense on one page only via CSS and it shows up everywhere or is this something you have to put on every page to count?

Thanks.

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You can get reinstated, i did.
I have explained the specifics several times, but the main factors, in my opinion, are to:
be nice, be honest, show evidence and be patient.
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Suzy how long did it take for them to get back to you?

I just got an e-mail from them with an e-mail address for complaints where I should send the specifics of my case -- which I did.

Typically what is their response time?

If its more than a week, I will go throuh my whole site and start removing all the ads on every page.

Thanks.

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I think it took about 3 weeks from the time of my banning to being reinstated. I took off all ads immediately, and put them back up when i was reinstated.
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"All my ads are now Hurricane Katrina ads."

If the add is displaying (regular or PSA) it means you are not banned. If you will be banned then no add (including Hurricane Katrina or another PSA) will be displayed as well as Google will inform you that your account is closed.

Did Google inform you that your AdSense Account is closed?

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