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The joy is spreading, as google has disabled every one of my client's adsense accounts, not for anywrongdoing, but because they were set up on the same ip address as the false clicking one.
Can I expect now, all these clients will also have their sites removed from google and pr forfeited?
I have written in to exaplain, yes my staff member did the wrong thing, but all the other accounts are to entirely different entities, but am not too hopeful of a response, let alone a solution
If so, probably not. The removal from the Adsense program doesn't mean those sites will lose page-ranking, indexing, etc.
you mean you set up a site for a member of your staff and he then clicked the ads on it?
all sites connected to that IP will be banned from adsense and probably all accounts also but i don't think it will affect google search etc;
it is still a high price to pay for one idiot's stipidity...google bans spread like a virus and we all know the only way to stop a virus is to isolate it...obviously all your clients sites will be affected if they ( unwisely) share the same IP.
Soooooo, which is it, a client or yours?
Nippi, is the corporate logon to WebmasterWorld for my business, it is used by as many as 5 people, that way, we all can see when someone is asking a question and learn.
The answer is.
a. Staff member told me a site she had set up for a client was attacked by a flase clicker. The "client" turned out to be the staff member, and though there was defintely a false clicker attack from a disgruntled refused linker, I discoutnd this as we lost 5 other adsense accounts on the same day.
b. I get suspicious, very curious why the 5 other accounts we lose, staff member manages and logs into their adsense from the same computer. All our other acounts are just fine.
c. I've made the assumption staff member has been clicking her own site, checking her adsense, then later on in the day loggin into some of our client accounts on the same computer. We have a fixed ip address, for sure there was a google cookie on the computer.
Very very sttupid.
We have gone one less step short of firing her, we have made her write to Google and admit her crime, and we are sending a letter on corporate letterhead detailing what has happened, and how we do expect her personal sites to receive whatever punishment google meters out, but don't wish to see those not involved punished.
There is no question of false clicks on any of the others accounts than this particular staff member.
signed
Boss Nippi
Seems you are just getting in deeper and deeper.
Ann. By having the passwords of course, because everyone at the office has the WWM forum password, as I've just stated, or because staff member in question set up her(our) client's adsense accounts and thus has their passwords.
Its an anonomous forum Ann. There is no digging deeper. I need only change users, your comments are silly.
Regardless, my question has been addressed, though in a some what limited form. I am less worried about the loss of the adsense accounts for my clients, they were not the main money earners for the accounts, being placed on their links pages only. The philosophy was they would lose some people to clicks on thesr pages, why nto get some revenue from it?
I am more concerned that now they will lose their rankings, and the effect it will have on the product sales. Will have to wait and see I guess.
Let's see if I have this right.
It is your account with your ads placed on clients link pages only and you got canned....Unless you asked permission of Google I would think that is the reason for your canning.
Sheesh, I personally think it was your own site as you stated in another thread and you are trying to yank our chains.
Fine, don't want to argue, good luck in getting it all straight.
Ann
One of the revoked adsense accounts just cam back online, no explanation from Google yet, but now heopful fo getting them all back.
And no loss of rankigns or pr on any sites, even on bigdaddy data centres so it appears all is well.
From Google.
"Thank you for clarifying your situation. We have reviewed your circumstances and have reinstated your account, effective immediately. Please note that there will be a delay of up to 48 hours before our servers are informed of the update and ads start running on your website again."
All previously gained funds were still available.
Writing in and explaining what had happened was met favorably. We did admit there was likely some false clicks from our office, as well as a possible attack from a 3rd party.
We listed a host of new security measure to ensure no future false clicks, including
(1) No google adds of staff or clients able to show at our office ip address, so no real chance we could cause a fraudulent click
(2) Click tracking software installed to ensure we can determine false clicks if they occur in the future.
(3) Script written to prevent anyone from one IP address clicking more than 3 adds in 5 minutes. The reasoning is google will detect false clicks, if the clicking is too fast to reasonably be a human clicking and reading pages.
(NB. What we have actually programmed is a script that after detecting 3 clicks in < 5 minutes from one ip address, adds replaced by yahoo, then chitika, then kanoodle... isn't php a beautiful thing! Looking at better ways of doing this(cookie?) as so many networks on one ip address.
By writing this script, we are protected from a false clicking event, and if someone IS trying to disable any of our client accounts for false clicks, or even if they are simply attacking one of their competitors’ adds, we prevent them doing it.... but if they wish they can still keep clicking our other adds a few times and we still get paid. Great Huh?!?
(4) Google adsense preview tool installed on all office computers and staff laptops.
No site rankings have been affected either, at any time.
Yahoo, filled the whole nicely, though not as well as google, as we cover many different topics on our sites, which yahoo is yet to gain many adds for.
Chitika and Kanoodle were trialed, but were both less than 10% of Google.
Affiliate programs were put in place, and though they may in the future work out, the fact that they rely on actual shopping, not just window shopping, for us this made them less attractive. We do not have a shopping driven site, information driven only, so our site customers don’t necessarily visit our site in buying mode
So.
Don't take your google adsense account for granted. EXPECT you will suffer a fraudulent clicking event and put measures in place to prevent it, or at the very least, put tracking in place so when you do need to make an explanation to Google, you are able to. We, were shooting in the dark when trying to find the likely problem without stats.
If you false clicked. Say so. Expect your mac address, ip address, google cookie, time between clicks and page opens to have been mapped. If you false clicked, Google will know. Provide your reasons for doing so if you have them, and why even though you’ve either done the wrong thing, or not done enough to prevent the wrong thing happening, why you should get the account back.
If you clicked 1000 times on your own adds in one day, don’t expect to get it back, obvious fraudulent behaviour is not possible to explain.
