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Why is that hapened to me?!

just why?

         

but_why

10:00 pm on Jan 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Ok, here is my BIG problem. On my site, I had gogle ads, I have more then 150K visitors daily, about 500 clicks. And now, what happened?! I got mail from google that I was clicking on ads on my site. That is so NOT true! And, they deleted my account with over 2000$ earned this month.
WHY is that happening to me?! If you want to know why, I will tell you. That is because I live in Serbia & Montenegro, and everything that webmasters living here do is bad. But WHY?
There are many webmasters like me who are working almoust 18 hours a day to earn something on the internet, we are doing our best, we follow the rules and what is happening?! We get our account deleted. Why then google accepts webmasters from here when they delete our accounts with no reason?!
We are blacklisted all over the net, why? Because there is one or two webmasters who are trying to make quick money? Is that reason for banning all country? Do you know that just in New Yourk you have more webmasters who want to make quick money by skiming, spaming and other things then on whole Balkan. But we are blacklisted...
And yes...I wanted to ask you, Is there any way to prove that I was not clicking on my ads? I have really earned that money with hard work and this is not first time that this thing is happening to me or webmasters who live here.

Thanks guys for reading this. I hope that someone will help me a little bit :)

Play_Bach

10:06 pm on Jan 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Until places like Romania, Nigeria et al start prosecuting criminals who scam the Web, there's really not many alternatives available to those abiding by the rule of law but to blacklist by country in some way or another.

anthrt

10:08 pm on Jan 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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you or someone on your site has been doing something they shouldn't. either you've been clicking your own ads or one of your visitors has been clicking them over and over.

but_why

10:10 pm on Jan 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Ok, that means, If there is 100 webmasters that are doing bad things on Web, you need to ban all country. Ok, but, why then google accept webmasters from here when they will delete our accounts after earning some money?

Frequent

10:14 pm on Jan 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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All you can do is email Google, make your case, and offer to cooperate fully by giving them access to your logs.

Remember, invalid clicks are not limited to you clicking your own ads.

Odds are not in your favor, but it is worth a try to save your account.

With the traffic levels you have you should be able to monetize your site in other ways besides adsense so all is not lost.

Freq---

but_why

10:14 pm on Jan 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I said that I was not clicking on my ads becouse I know that google is strict. How can I prove that I was not clicking?!
If someone else was clicking many times....why am I deleted becouse of that?
That means that I can go to someones else site, click all day on his ads and he will be deleted?
That is so not fair!

Play_Bach

10:16 pm on Jan 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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> Ok, but, why then google accept webmasters from here when they will delete our accounts after earning some money?

Maybe they're hoping that if enough of you "honest" Web masters get mad about having their accounts closed, that you'll help change the laws in your country to shut down the scammers. ;-)

martinibuster

10:21 pm on Jan 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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What do when you're kicked out of adsense
[webmasterworld.com...]

The reason why you were kicked out may not be you clicking on ads. It may be for other reasons. In any case, it will be in your interest to read the above thread and take positive action.

Good luck.

creepychris

10:21 pm on Jan 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Just to reiterate what has been said:

Remember, invalid clicks are not limited to you clicking your own ads.

It is possible that Google took a disliking to some aspect of your content. Clicks received on pages that violate TOS are also deemed invalid even when they are by legitimate users who really want to follow the ads. Unfortunately, Google does not like discussing why the clicks were invalid. They have been criticized for their lack of transparency in this regard.

but_why

10:21 pm on Jan 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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That is nice way of thinking, but how 100 webmasters can improve something in our country? Do you think that their care about us? LOL
They care only about them selves, but that is not question right now, I dont want to talk about politics here.
Thanks guys, I will try to contact google about this...I hope that everything will be fine, but knowing Google...I can only pray and expect same answer.

Play_Bach

10:32 pm on Jan 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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> That is nice way of thinking, but how 100 webmasters can improve something in our country?

1.) You could take out a full page ad in the biggest newspaper to let all your countrymen (and women) know how much it sucks that these guys have ruined your cash cow.

2.) Form an angry mob and hit all the cyber cafes looking for the scammers, then drive them out of town.

miguelito

10:33 pm on Jan 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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On my site, I had gogle ads, I have more then 150K visitors daily, about 500 clicks. And now, what happened?!

let me get this straight, 150,000 visitors daily and only 500 clicks....are you serious?

but_why

10:41 pm on Jan 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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That is the way it is...only about 500 clicks. I know that is bad...
Play_Bach, thanks for idea, but:
1) full page ad in the biggest newspaper is to expensive and people here dont care about anybody. If they hear that I have earned 2000$ in one month maybe someone will kidnap my wife or daughter becouse of that. Here is salary little over 100$ a month.
2) Form an angry mob - dont you think that that is vandalism?

Play_Bach

10:46 pm on Jan 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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>1) full page ad in the biggest newspaper is to expensive and people here dont care about anybody.

Too expensive for 100 of you all pitching in?

> If they hear that I have earned 2000$ in one month maybe someone will kidnap my wife or daughter becouse of that. Here is salary little over 100$ a month.

Like I said, rule of law. Until that's achieved at home, don't expect much help from the West in policing your country.

> 2) Form an angry mob - dont you think that that is vandalism?

Not vandelism (unless you guys tear up the place!), vigilanteism maybe... ;-)

but_why

11:11 pm on Jan 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Play_Bach, thanks for supporting me :)

But, as I said, people here dont care about anything, most of people eaven dont know what is internet, sad but true.

>Like I said, rule of law. Until that's achieved at home, don't expect much help from the West in policing your country.

I think, If I`m working following West laws, following Google rules I have a few more rights. That is just thinking...
If you see, in my country we dont have law about SPAM, may I then SPAM all internet? Of course not, becouse I need to work following USA law. But if some company violate my rights, I may only cry. That is just way it is.
And, becouse I am following ALL rules, I hope that everything will be fine.

jomaxx

11:18 pm on Jan 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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AdSense has successful webmasters all over the world. You were kicked out because of invalid clicks, not because you're in Serbia-Montenegro.

Just ignore Play_Bach, who is amusing himself at your expense. Obviously you personally aren't going to be able to do much to improve law enforcement in your country. That's all beside the point anyways.

but_why

11:42 pm on Jan 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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jomaxx thanks for answering me.
How I can prevent invalid clicks? Can you help me with this?

jomaxx

11:50 pm on Jan 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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It's too late for that.

Read the thread martinibuster pointed you to if you want to try to appeal Google's decision. If you're thinking about turning around and opening up another account under a different name, not many people here will help you do that.

but_why

11:58 pm on Jan 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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ok, I know that this is a little late for that.
I have read that thread and I hope that everything will be fine. I will contact google.

But anyway...I want to know a little bit more about preventing invalid clicks. If you have time, please help me. Thanks.

novice

11:59 pm on Jan 11, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I have really earned that money with hard work and this is not first time that this thing is happening to me or webmasters who live here.

Did you previously have an AdSense account that was disabled?

but_why

12:14 am on Jan 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I had one account which was deleted in august I think. After that I have moved to other city becouse I`m student, I have other address and I started to work on other site.
Then, I didn`t had so much experience and I haven`t contacted google. But, I was not doing anything that violate TOS. I just dint know what to do.
Now, I have learned more, I have meet few more webmasters and they told me what was happened to them.
Yesterday, when my account was blocked I wanted to find out how to try to contact google and see what was happened and what to do. And now...I`m here :)

novice

12:20 am on Jan 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

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I had one account which was deleted in august I think.

but_why, unfortunately when Google disables a publisher they ban all future use in the AdSense program.

You can try to email them and explain but, it is going to be an uphill battle.

Visi

12:24 am on Jan 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

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<coughs> let me see now. Banned previously from Adsense as recently as 3 months ago. Put up another website that has 150,000 visitors per day? If this is a new website, excellent rate of getting visitors. If previous website, then you have just explained why you were banned as google banned url

but_why

12:25 am on Jan 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Thanks mate for this. I didn`t know... I see that this will be hell of the job. I hope that I will win this battle (one day). Wish me luck!

camper

12:32 am on Jan 12, 2006 (gmt 0)

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Why was your account deleted in August?