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1) everything is per account not per site this sucks
2) the contextual #*$! dont work ads arent related to content EVER..... they need to let us set "general categories" to fall back on
The service is only worthless to people who earn pennies, but not to people who know how to earn thousands from it.
I think there is a lot of people that know as much as you know and are still in troubles. It's quite easy to write what you write while you are in the 99% of people for whom the system is working. When you are in the other 1% you struggle to find a way to get it fixed. It's mostly a matter of luck, not of knowledge.
well... what is difference between "normal" web page and forum page? none!
oh and this is a bbs written from ground
It's mostly a matter of luck, not of knowledge.
Luck has nothing to do with it. The selection of your site topic - it either fits Google Adsense or not. Some people do well because their sites are perfect vehicles for contextual advertising, while some are just not no matter how hard they try. The way you generate traffic. The on-page factors that maximizes click - luck has nothing to do with your willingness to experiment on the best layout and ad placement.
Luck has nothing to do with it.
luck has nothing to do with your willingness to experiment on the best layout and ad placement
When, in the first sentence, you write "nothing to do with IT", what should IT be? I wrote "mostly". You seem to start with a sentence that should be valid worldwide and end up refining it to a point where it becomes obvious and basically off topic. You seem to miss the point that, although you did what we might call "everything", you might still end up in the 1% (or even 0.001% for what it matters) where AdSense is not working fine. Luck is part of the game, whatever you experienced. Do you really think that AdSense is perfect? If it's not perfect, it can be made better. If there is any hint Google can brainstorm on to make it work for 100% of the web sites, I think it is worth to brainstorm.
And yes, luck has nothing to do with it. Does luck write your content? Nah, I don't think so. It's you, your knowledge, your resources. Content and traffic will not fall like apples from the trees.
It's really a numbers game - overall, the mediabot's success rate at correctly targeting page content is very high. The more quality content pages you have on your site(s) (a factor that is 100% within your control), the less effect "bad luck" will have on your AdSense earnings.
As I mentioned in your other thread, AdSense is not always plug and play. Also, your mileage will vary depending on the type of site(s) you operate.
If it doesn't work out for you, it's no biggie, just look for alternative ways to monetise your sites - there are plenty. In fact, AdSense is one of the lowest paying anyway. The benefit of AdSense is it's simplicity to set up, but that simplicity has a downside and that's what you're experiencing.
So really you need to either take the time to learn about section targetting, or just ditch AdSense if you can't be bothered with that and look for something else.
1) everything is per account not per site this sucks
I don't think so, personally. Ideally I'd have an account per site, but I wouldn't call this a critical issue and I'm happy to live with it.
2) the contextual #*$! dont work ads arent related to content EVER..... they need to let us set "general categories" to fall back on
In my experience, with the exception of the odd, very rare, anomally, the targetting is bang on the money.
TJ
AdSense goes down 80% in a couple of days
Elfred ... I did experience that with Jagger. I lost Google traffic and revenues for Oct and Nov were only 1/3 of what I used to get. But I did not come here stomping and crying that the program was broken. I looked for the reasons I went wrong. I amped up my marketing and advertising campaigns. By end December, traffic went back up to pre-Jagger levels and eCPM and CTR came back with a vengeance. Earnings are at an all-time high.
Will this happen again? Probably. But I know there are other revenue sources out there. And best of all, I know I can survive a downturn. As everyone keeps harping here, diversification of revenue sources is key.
And when something does not seem right, like what OP is experiencing, the first thing to do is to see whether the program itself offers any fixes. As trillianjedi says, OP should try the section targeting. There are many problems raised here that Adsense has already provided solutions - we just need to find them. And if there's really nothing to solve the problem, then it's high time to look for something else that will work better.
one interesting thing that you people keep saying is that forums dont work wellwell... what is difference between "normal" web page and forum page? none!
The differences are in audience motivation and behavior. For the most part, forum members are looking for community, not for things to buy. That's why, for example, an AOL advertising rate card that I saw a few years ago charged 1/3 as much for forum impressions (and 1/6 as much for chat impressions) as it did for impressions on search results.
To succeed with AdSense, you need to know more than how to create pages and put them online. You also need to understand audiences and online business models. Google can supply the ads, but if you want to succeed, it's your job to supply the right topic, content, and audience.
well... what is difference between "normal" web page and forum page? none!
If you don't know the difference you're probably seeing a LOT of off target crap and PSAs on all your pages as forums and blogs are notorious for this problem.
The content needs keywords and the threads need to be consistent and not drift off the deep end so that AdSense understands exactly what each page is about.
Are your titles, H1s, H2s, meta tags, etc. all in place and consistent?
Do the topic titles of the posts even make sense from a search engine?
Example:
Posts like "I NEED HELP ON THIS" as a topic would be meaningless.
I'm guessing the answer is NO across the board as good spider good generates good ads no matter what kind of website you have.
