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New Google Update and Adsense Earnings

         

surfer67

1:53 pm on Nov 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The latest Google search engine update has chopped my traffic in half which has in turn done the same to my adsense earnings.

Anyone else been hit this hard?

Surfer

Nitrous

9:43 pm on Nov 2, 2005 (gmt 0)



Well I have about 16 niche sites. Trafic dropped a little overall. Up on some, down on others. Income averages just the same...

Iguana

10:31 pm on Nov 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I lost 93% of Google traffic! Thankfully Yahoo traffic will keep me in cigs and beer.

sailorjwd

11:30 pm on Nov 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I've survived almost totally on Adwords since Feb of this year. Finally my visitors came back with this update to about 70% of normal.

The good part about this horrible six months is now I know I can survive without G free visitors and I have learned alot about adwords and will continue to use it to a lesser degree - maybe that's G's design with all these serp rotations.

david_uk

7:16 am on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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How recent is this particular update? Have they had one since Bourbon?

ann

8:25 am on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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c'mon David,

Haven't you been watching Jagger on Google news? We are going into phase 3 of the Jagger update.

david_uk

8:34 am on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Oh dear - I must be behind the times:(

Can anyone tell me if that nice Mrs. Thatcher is still Prime minister or not?

Note to self - I must get out more.

Seriously, I didn't know there was one. I will do some googling later to get more info. I just typed in my prime keyword and my site is now #1 in google.com and google.co.uk - that might account for the very recent improvement in visitor numbers and earnings.

21_blue

9:22 am on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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david_uk wrote:
>Can anyone tell me if that nice Mrs. Thatcher is still Prime minister or not?

Yes, Mrs Thatcher is still Prime Minister. However, these days she dresses as a man and goes under the name of Tony Blair. And Arthur Scargill now has a job as Union Leader for YPN workers, and this morning they've sabotaged Adsense. It's Thatcher and Thatcherism as normal :-)

Bddmed

9:26 am on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Ann, don't you mean Dayo_uk?

ann

1:54 pm on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Nope, I was responding to David's question. :)

I know Dayo has been reading the Jagger update threads...I read them too.:)

jetteroheller

2:00 pm on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Little bit increased traffic,
but in the last days EPC down.

21_blue

2:18 pm on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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ann wrote:
>Jagger update threads...I read them too.:)

That must be why you were posting at 3:30 in the morning. I've given up reading about Jagger - there's just not enough time in the day. If it hits us, it hits us, but at the moment the impact seems to amount to zippo either way.

annej

2:24 pm on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I'm OK this time but my smaller site plunged in the serps during Bourbon and it really brought the earnings down for that site. Luckily it got sorted out and came back up. But it made me realize something about who clicks on ads.

Even though only half my visitors come to my sites through search engines my earnings dropped by much more than half on that site. It appears that search engine visitors do most of the clicking on ads. I think it's because they are just surfing about and are more likely to notice ads and move on through them.

People who come using their bookmarks, links from related sites, word of mouse, etc are more likely to stay but not click. All the more reason to be sure our ad units show in the first window.

ann

2:44 pm on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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My middle site hung around for a long time on page 4 and 5 due to much scraping, then a rewrite and it went to #32 then slid again to #42 now it is all of #76! Google has always seemed to hate that site but it is a clean and informative site that contains lots of info that I add to regularly...Heck, 2 different sites that said they were closed due to abuse and scrapers with only an explanation page and both outranked me!

It does come up as #2 on a 2 word key phrase and is propped up by my larger site and bookmarks plus some traffic from MSN and Yahoo. Interesting though, it has a high ecpm and earns well on adsense.

The bigger site has gained 1 slot to come in at # 7. Medium ecpm and good earner.

Newest site is getting some traffic and also clicks at a high ecpm.

AdSense earnings keep rising for all 3 sites so I won't complain and I worked too hard to shut any of them down even if Google can't tell a rich content site from a scraped, MFA....oh well.

OptiRex

2:47 pm on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)



It's Thatcher and Thatcherism as normal :-)

Now try saying this on a tube of wine gums...Cameronism...without sounding if one has been out for a night with 21_blue:-)

21_blue

2:50 pm on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Optirex wrote:
>Now try saying this on a tube of wine gums...Cameronism

Who needs TV when the entertainment on WW is this good?

david_uk

7:01 pm on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Well, so far the new update agrees with me. I've got a promotion from 3 to 1 on Google.com. That has made quite a difference to my page traffic and has bumped up adsense earnings.

Kudos to Google for making the browsing experience more pleasurable (if that's the intention).

BUT - the new updates so far seem to do nothing about the MFA sites problem. They KNOW that Google will attempt to bury them at the bottom of the pile. They will of course adapt accordingly given time, but right now they use adwords to get traffic, so are unaffected by the update to some degree.

On the search for my keyword, there are 7 ads on the right of the page - 5 of them I have blocked from my site as they are MFA's and do not conform to the TOS in major respects. If part of Google's intention is to hit MFA's, then they are simply going at it from the wrong angle. The only way of dealing with MFA's is for Google to kick the buggers out.

sailorjwd

7:12 pm on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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kick the buggers out...

Can't we talk about this first :(

david_uk

7:36 pm on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Can't we talk about this first

Well, this thread is really about the new Google updates, so I'm not going to hijack it with my views on MFA's. I don't know if Google's intention with this update is to deal with MFA's or not. My point it that if it was aimed at clearing out the crap, then it seems bizzarre to clear them out from the serps, but still allow them to dominate the right hand column!

krod

8:36 pm on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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the new google update increased my traffic by about 125% :))))

sailorjwd

9:20 pm on Nov 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I only got an 80% boost in traffic. But I can now reduce those annoying MFA adwords ads to the right of the serps.