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How do I bid .01 cent?

unused keywords on adwords

         

sore66

5:23 pm on Dec 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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How do I bid .01 cent (or end up paying 01. cent) for Google search result keywords that currently have no ads on them?

I just started with adwords and it's not the simplest program in the world at the start.

It seems the minimum is .10 cents as a default but I would like to pay a penny for words that have no adword ads as of yet.

jtara

5:40 pm on Dec 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Unfortunately, you have to pay even MORE for most keywords that currently have no ads on them.

As far as "how" - you simply bid .01.

Good luck!

sore66

7:23 pm on Dec 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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That's insane! More?

BadSense

8:30 pm on Dec 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Strange, but yep.

jtara

9:16 pm on Dec 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Not really so strange, if you consider the premise that perhaps Google has a capacity crunch.

It takes computing resources to keep track of a keyword. The vast majority of Google searches do NOT have bins to maintain statistics. There is no practical way to go back in history and retrieve the statistics for a keyword that has never been used before. A rather large percentage of Google searches (I think I'v eseen 20%?) are actually unique, and have never been used before.

There's some evidence of a capacity crunch in the restrictions on accounts - 50,000 keywords, 25 campaigns, etc.

I'd conjecture they don't want to waste their resources tracking hits on keywords that may or may not ever produce .01 income.

.20 seems to be the absolute minimum for any "virgin" keyword. That can go up, to as much as $5, more more specific virgin keywords. (The broader the term, the lower the price, at least for virgin keywords.)

The price will tend to go down once the keyword is used.

However, this creates a big problem in a lot of cases. For example, you can have a newly published book whose title is a $5 keyword. That's a big problem if it's a $10 book...

sore66

9:27 pm on Dec 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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But if they know the obscure writer already gets 795 hits a day in search, they can guesstimate the number of click-thrus, as can I.

I would "guess" 8 to 80 of the 795 searches a day would click thru. (1% to 10%)

It's good business for Google to make the customer bear the cost of the "research" on the CTR of a particular keyword.

But I know 3 to 5 cents is where the price should be to make a decent ROI. At 10 cents I lose money. So Google makes NO money.

BTW, can I bid 3 to 5 cents (or less) for existing keywords?

gopi

9:44 pm on Dec 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Write a quality ad with a matching landing page and just bid whatever the system says minimum (careful to limit the budget to the amount you can afford to loose)...

After a week or so you will see new minimum bids and if you have a good CTR you may see <0.05 minimum bids!

sore66

10:48 pm on Dec 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I kind of knew it was something like that but now I understand! Good CTR, then it's a lower rate....

ronmcd

11:41 pm on Dec 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Good CTR, then it's a lower rate...

Well, um, sometimes. Best not to leap to any conclusions though. IF google decides your ad copy is of sufficient "quality" (dont ask), and if your ad is relevant to the keyword (what IS relevant? Discuss..), not to mention your landing page should also now contain the keyword (who says keyword stuffing is bad), then, just maybe, good CTR will mean your min cpc will come down.

Or go up. Definitely one or the other.

Unless it stays the same.

sore66

11:52 pm on Dec 27, 2005 (gmt 0)

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There...that sounds more like the Google reality I know.

For Google giveth and taketh away, in its inscrutable unknowable ways.