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apps5.oingo.com

is it possible to exclude them?

         

bcc1234

6:57 pm on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I'm looking at my overall stats, and regardless of the keywords, average conversion rate from
pagead2.googlesyndication.com is 0.86% which is not bad because I have really good margins.
But for that same sales page, apps5.oingo.com referrals convert at 0.17%. As I said, those numbers are averages across all keywords.

Is there a way to exclude oingo.com with the regular site exclusion tool?

eWhisper

8:55 pm on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I wish this was possible, it's part of domain parking ( [google.com...] ).

Oingo is owned by Google and the traffic isn't coming through that site, it's coming through parked domains as part of the content network.

Related thread: [webmasterworld.com...]

Some advertisers see decent results with the content ntwork, but terrible with domain parking. Unfortunatley, you can't block all of domain parking at one time, so the result is turning off the entire content network.

If anyone finds a way to block the entire domain park network at once, please post it.

inasisi

9:01 pm on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I think it is even worse, Google considers parked domains to be part of Search Network and not Content Network. So we cannot block even individual domains.

bcc1234

9:21 pm on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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This sucks.

eWhisper

9:29 pm on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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According to this post, [webmasterworld.com...] msg 14, domain parking is part of the content network - not search partner network.

bcc1234

9:31 pm on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Does anyone know if excluding sites listed in the parameters of the referrer of apps5 help?

JKelly

9:41 pm on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I got hits from domain parking pages with search network enabled and content network disabled. What they need on the CPC content and search network is a way to specify what domains you want your ads to appear on rather than what domains you don't want as I only want 2 or 3 and don't want 1000s - most of which I don't even know the names of nor do I have the time to figure it out.

bcc1234

9:53 pm on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Actually, I just checked the latest stats and I got about 850 hits for one domain under oingo then 15 from another one then 8 from a third one and just a couple of hits from a few other domains.

It looks like I only have few distinct domains for that campaign.

And it definitely looks like the domain #1 is forcing traffic.

Yahoo's linksite command for that domain only shows 22 backlinks.

Come to think of it, if I disregard all hits from that particular domain then oingo might not be so bad.

So now I need to figure out a way to block that one domain.

Sea_Colon

10:40 pm on Nov 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I fired off an email about this (mentioning oingo.com specifically) to adwords a few weeks ago and got a response back that they were looking into my concerns about the quality of cpc traffic coming from parked domains, oingo in particular.

No word from them since, but I'd be 100% satisfied if their reply comes in the form of a check box that lets you opt out.

limitup

12:24 am on Nov 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I got about 850 hits for one domain under oingo

Just curious, how are you able to determine this?

bcc1234

9:32 am on Nov 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Just curious, how are you able to determine this?

by referrer.

eWhisper

8:28 pm on Nov 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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FYI - I've recently heard from several people that some parked domains are considered part of the search network and not part of the content network.

Seems you can have ads on this program if you're in search or content - not much way around it.

Why can't we just bid separately for domain parking as it's really not search or content but a different traffic program all together?

limitup

8:42 pm on Nov 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Same old reason - Google is evil. They know that on average people will bid much lower for this traffic, so they will make less money.

Sea_Colon

9:40 pm on Nov 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I did receive confirmation today from an adwords rep that this traffic comes from the search network and that if you don't want your ads to show up on oingo-parked domains, opt out of the search network.