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Had my first click attack these last few days .

so pulled all ads from that country.

         

OddDog

9:37 am on Sep 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I got an attack from Ankara university in Turkey.

To make it easy I just pulled my ads from turkey.

patient2all

11:37 pm on Sep 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I don't like having to do it, but I always use a selective country list.

patient2all

DamonHD

2:37 pm on Sep 17, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hi,

Yes, me too.

I think that your ad list should be the same as a firewall list: don't show in a given country unless you really want to.

Also, be aware that your "attacker" may well have been a compromised machine being used as a proxy rather than an acne-ridden student with a grudge, so you should consider using a DNS BL to dynamically block access from compromised machines and known open proxies. For me this seems to have reduced bandwidth costs by about 5% too.

Rgds

Damon

OddDog

7:58 am on Sep 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

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i am not a programer, (i learnt html and css - but thats it) so black lists on dns numbers, or ips, on the server side are beyond me. (for the moment).

I saw on the demography stats turkey jump to the top so i looked at the visitors details (i use webceo).
Lots of differnet machines but all from the same university.

Can you tell me which countries are on your black list?

DamonHD

8:01 am on Sep 19, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hi,

I think that it is an error to blacklist by country, as you would have to shut out all of the US (home of most spammers and compromised machines) and China (#2) just for a start! These days static lists just don't cut the mustard.

I shut out open proxies and compromised machines, but dynamically. Look at the "XBL" SpamHaus.org list for example.

I'm simply trying to make it hard for potential attackers to cover their tracks.

On the other hand, when I use AW, I only advertise in English-speaking countries with a fairly high level of general probity (and the US! B^>). But that's more of a targetting and whitelist issue.

Rgds

Damon

OddDog

9:58 am on Sep 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

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are you saying that it is possible to dynamically stop my adwords ads from appearing to possibly dodgie open proxies ect?

DamonHD

1:14 pm on Sep 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hi,

Yes, exactly that.

In fact, I block all but a very few URLs from being shown to dodgy users, which means they don't even get to see the HTML pages that contain the ads.

But you could do exactly what you state instead if you wish.

Rgds

Damon

OddDog

3:19 pm on Sep 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

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i have to admit to been confused (i am sure due to ignorance!) about what oyu r are saying.

I understand that it is possible to spto showing ADSENSE ads to dodgy ips, proxies ect .. by having a list of them on the server were the web site is been hosted ( i actually have my own dedicated server).

But from there to stopping my ADWORDS on the content network showing is another.

Were do I need to go to read about this for adwords.

Ta in advance

Patrick

DamonHD

7:14 pm on Sep 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hi,

No, you could not do what you suggest for *your* AdWords ads.

However, I suspect that G is already doing something similar, at least in deciding which clicks are dubious, eg for later refunds.

Rgds

Damon

OddDog

5:32 pm on Sep 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

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just to give an update,

without my sending an email to google or in anyother way bring this to google adwords attention, my account recieved a balancing bonus for invalid clicks.

DamonHD

8:16 pm on Sep 29, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hi OddDog,

Thanks for the info.

Was it a significant fraction of your monthly account turnover (eg >5% of a month's spend)?

Rgds

Damon

OddDog

6:39 am on Sep 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hi Damon,

actually in this case it was approx 5% of a months budget.

But on seeing how google did this WITHOUT me getting in touch with them this incident has helped me decide to double my daily spending.

DamonHD

7:31 pm on Sep 30, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hi,

Yes, for all the bad-mouthing of G, I certainly don't think they are G666gle!

Rgds

Damon

OddDog

4:25 pm on Oct 1, 2005 (gmt 0)

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the problem they have is they are the dominant player, so its easy to complain.

but as a SE i personally think they have better relevancy.

on the ad front, i have used overture, and google, and found google simple more flexible.

i mean has anyone tried opening an international campaign using yahoo (arrgghhh all those accounts ...)