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How to explain to a client why their ad does not display.

They keep checking that it's there.

         

gazraa

10:08 am on Sep 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Here's the situation, I have set up a google adwords account for my client to advertise their online shop. I have a good list of keywords, set the cpc and daily budget.

My client keeps checking that they are in the sponsored links by typing in the same word during the day. Everytime the ad does not display I get a phone call with "The ad is not displaying, why?" and it's really starting to annoy me. I can see their point though.

For instance, for a particular word they appear at the top of the sponsored links. Yet when they try in the evening they say it doesn't appear. The daily budget is set to £5 per day but we've only just got over £5 spend for the last week so the daily budget isn't being reached, or could that be the problem?

I've just turned on the budget optimiser thingy to try and assist a bit, but I need to give them an answer that will satisfy them.

Can anyone help?

webdevfv

10:17 am on Sep 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Could Google be looking at the customer's IP address and thinking we'd better show different ads to this guy cause he isn't clicking on the ones we're currently showing, i.e. the ad appears to be less relevant.

Also, the more impressions he sees the lower the clickthrough will be - that is unless he's clicking the ad as well.

When your clickthrough rate falls it affects your position in the ranking whether you've paid the most or not for that term.

briggidere

10:19 am on Sep 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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hi, i'll have a go at answering this one.

google tries to predice how many times that term will be searched for on a daily basis.

lets say "wigets" is the term.

your clients avg cpc is £0.50
google predicts that term will be searched 1000 times in that day.
Your client can only get 10 clicks to stay within their budget.

If you clients CTR is 5% the ad will only show up in about 1 in 5 searches as google would predict from the CTR and cpc that if it was to run at full potential they would get 50 clicks, but this would exceed their budget so only shows it a calculated % of the time.

Does this explain it for you?

briggidere

JuniorOptimizer

10:25 am on Sep 15, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hopefully you didn't give a client with a £5 daily budget a toll-free phone number :)

webaddict

7:05 am on Sep 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I just thought I would pop in and confirm Brigg's statement. I have found the same problem in the past and it is fixed by inflating your budget past a realistic point. As scary as it is, it will fix the problem of your ads showing and not showing.

Google does estimate the number of impressions / clicks your ad could receive and this is how it uses your budget information. Instead of letting you use up your budget and then stopping your ads Google instead optimizes the display of your ads throughout the day.

inbound

9:23 am on Sep 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The budget is probably the problem.

I have one annoying campaign set on $200 just to spend $20-25. Wehn it was at $50 and $100 it just didn't get the impressions. It's not to do with the CTR either as that is at 4%+

There is the chance that this will still not cure the problem completely.

BTW - £5 a day, I hope the client is spending money with you on SEO as well. At a 20% fee that's probably only worth 30 minutes to an hour of your time a month (which would be the time spent billing and processing anyway).

SFReader

2:08 pm on Sep 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Is 20% a typical fee for managing adwords accounts?

We are a franchise that have been running our own adwords for years. Recently the main company started encouraging franchises to run ads. They offer to manage the campaigns for about 50%.

briggidere

2:16 pm on Sep 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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hi sfreader,

I think 20% is a little high to be honest. if you can get it great, but if your clients do a little search on it they will find a lot of people do it for less. i would say drop it to 12-15% to stay in with a better chance of keeping them as clients.

do a little search on it and you will see what other people charge.

hope this helps

briggidere

netmeg

3:21 pm on Sep 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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(I charge by the hour rather than a percentage)

I have one client who used to call me up almost daily if she didn't see her ad at any particular random time she or her extended family checked for it. I solved the problem by splitting the campaigns into Search Network and Content Network, and keeping the Search Network daily budget fairly high. Since our conversions are much higher on Search anyway, this stone killed several birds, so to speak.

SFReader

4:32 pm on Sep 16, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Thank you.

Manging SE ad campaigns is only part of my job, but I like to occasionally point out how much is saved versus going outside.

Same with SEO, but I see quotes on the price of that fairly often.

gazraa

8:31 pm on Sep 18, 2005 (gmt 0)

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thanks to all of you for your replies. I am doing a lot of other work for them on the site and the £5 daily budget was a bit of a tester.

I will recommend to them that they increase the daily budget to something a bit more sensible and hope that sorts it out.

i'd still be interested in hearing how people deal with managing adwords and overture accounts for other people.

fworth

11:38 pm on Sep 20, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Hi,gazraa!
Just curious what do you charge the adword clients?
Thinking about adversting for clients myself...

gazraa

8:08 am on Sep 21, 2005 (gmt 0)

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i've just set up a monthly maintenance fee. So it's just a regular charge of a couple of hours a month. It's not a huge campaign or anything like that so it doesn't take a lot of looking after.