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Broad Terms Ignored But Specific Terms Get Traffic

         

justshelley

2:59 am on Aug 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I had an existing client request help for a small "personal" Google campaign. It's a very regionally targeted campaign with little competition. I did the usual set up and broke down the terms into categories with ads relevant to those terms. Since it was sort of freebie account and because there was little competition...instead of coming up with hundreds of search terms, I decided to use a handful of broad terms. Each AdGroup initially had about 5 to 15 broad terms in it.

Days went by. No impressions or clicks. I went into the account and started adding very specific terms (like I normally do with regular paying clients) and suddenly I get traffic and clicks. The original terms were never on hold or on trial (they were specific and matched the text ads) so I just find it odd to have had this happen to this account when I've never had it happen before. Anyone else experience this lately?

HitProf

3:35 pm on Aug 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Broadmatch terms start out as exact terms and only after they have proven themselves are expanded to broadmatch. Can be very annoying and time consuming before it picks up decent traffic.

Even a term with a nice CTR may not show on all phrase variations people type in.

justshelley

4:17 pm on Aug 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I know I've read that before about broad terms but can you refresh my memory...how long has Google been doing that? With my "normal" clients, I set up broad/phrase/exact in the very beginning so even though this may have been a Google policy for a while...this is the first time I've encountered (or noticed) it.

eWhisper

4:54 pm on Aug 2, 2005 (gmt 0)

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[webmasterworld.com...] msg 19 talks about broad KWs becoming exacts.

HitProf

4:53 pm on Aug 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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I think the broad match is completely broken by now.

My ads show up for keywords on the suggested similar words which I'm suggested to add to my list - words I've never heard of and certainly don't advertise on. But my 9% broadmatch keyword fails to show up for the "more specific words" in the first column I use to check for relevancy and unwanted combinations.

So now we're forced to clutter up our keywords list with thousands of little used keywords and exclude every unwanted word form the suggestions list? Is this what they want us to do?

btw did anyone else notice the broadmach synonyms in the upper RHS are gone in the keywords tool?

eWhisper

5:48 pm on Aug 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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The broadmatch is becoming pretty vague on quite a few keywords.

Last night I was looking up some info on a company that went out of business a few years ago. A simple 4 letter name.ereo

The SERPs were good. However, the ads were all for an expensive term that was obviously broadmatched.

It would be the same as showing green ads for a search for genes. Similiar letters, different order, definately not the same keyword.

Unfortunately, this type of example is becoming more and more common with regards to broadmatch.

patient2all

8:12 pm on Aug 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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eWhisper,

Broad match has been getting broader of late, which I appreciate sometimes.

However, since the 'ereo' turns up the same ads for an exact match, is it possible these advertisers are including that as a mis-spelling -- or does 'euro' translate to 'ereo' in some other language?

patient2all

(Provincial American)

HitProf

8:15 pm on Aug 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Only in Google language.