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Is this a viable reaction to new affiliate rules?

         

esllou

12:20 pm on Jan 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



I have a campaign, let's call it "widgets". And I have adgroups:

blue
red
green
yellow
etc, etc

All of them go to affiliate.com?cat=12&aff=345 type URL's...the type G are stamping on from next week.

With the bids I make in AW, I average out around 5th or 6th on the ad classification on G itself. My copy is good and I get good CTR and ROI but I am usually behind at least two other ads linking directly to affiliate.com

My idea was to re-create the whole campaign, equal in everything except landing page. I actually have landing pages on my site already, but as many have already noted THE CONVERSION RATES ARE BETTER IF I SEND DIRECT TO SELL SITE.

So then, from the 12th, if my direct-link ads don't get served, it should then default to my landing page ads....so I should still get ads served for all the same searches as before...or not?

Is there something I am missing here?

I do NOT intend to start doubling my bids to get first place under the new rules as I think that is a speedy trip down the short road to negative ROI. And I would advise those with ideas and tricks to get into first place over the next few days to think about what they are doing....you cannot game the system like that and you are just gonna lose a lot of cash.

contentsiteguy

12:52 pm on Jan 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



I actually have landing pages on my site already, but as many have already noted THE CONVERSION RATES ARE BETTER IF I SEND DIRECT TO SELL SITE.

From my experience that shouldn't be the case. It's easy to assume that statement is universally so but you have to take into account that all landing pages are not created equal.

My landing page content didn't work at first either until I found out how to make my content presell better. Now that ROI is substantially greater with my content focused landing pages, I was only using direct-to-merchant to decide if it was worth creating a landing page so this change didn't affect me much at all. In fact, I'm looking forward to it.

Preselling and creating effective landing pages is just as much an art as SEO is or mastering Adwords.

There is an excellent read on this subject that I can point you to but I'm not sure if links are allowed here so if you or anyone else is affected by this and wants to learn more about preselling, then sticky me and I'll send you the link.

esllou

2:30 pm on Jan 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



thanks for the response CSG...my conversion rate IS good off my site, but one advangtage you gain when you link direct is the cookies.

my selling site has 30 day cookies so I get a lot of people going back to that site ten or fifteen days later with my cookie id still on their system.

you don't get that if someone clicks through to my site's landing pages, then changes their minds and clicks elsewhere without going through to affiliate.com

so even if my conversion rate was equal to that of affiliate.com, that cookie difference will always mean ROI is better with direct link ads on AdWords

so then the goal is to make my site landing page's conversion rate even BETTER than the sell site....

esllou

2:31 pm on Jan 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



have I got the technical side of things worked out correctly though? If I had the two campaigns running in parallel....would one support the other and hence not leave any gaps in ad coverage?

contentsiteguy

4:24 pm on Jan 8, 2005 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



You're exactly right. You likely won't get as good a conversion rate for a particular merchant you are an affiliate of if you use landing pages as compared to direct-to-merchant. But I never said that. I said you'll get better ROI. Let me explain it a little bit:

By sending visitors to a landing page you are able to offer different products, more merchants, Adsense, an RSS or newsletter sign up, auction listings, and other revenue producing avenues. Direct-to-merchant is a one shot deal.

So what if that one particular merchant gets less sales from you. You have to ask yourself, are you in business to make money for YOURSELF or are you trying to make money for one particular merchant.

When a person does a search obviously they're looking for something. Why they don't buy from your ad could be any number of reasons.... price too high, don't like the merchant's site colors, don't like doing business with large companies, don't like doing business with small companies, customer service issues with a past order, need more information on product first, and etc.

That's why you give them real CONTENT (product info, reviews, your personal experiences, etc.) and several revenue producing options. But like I said earlier there's a certain way you have to do it for maximum return on investment.

I don't mind converting 25% less with one affiliate program if I'm making 50% more through others on the landing page and throughout the site. :-)