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1 affiliate per merchant to be announced tomorrow

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5:42 pm on Jan 5, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Just heard from "informed sources" that the formerly discussed change [webmasterworld.com...] that was brought up by Shak will be oficially announced tomorrow. Implementation will take place in a week. Will be interresting to watch. Wonder how many email complaints G will get.

I also expect to see a huge ripple effect for PPC affiliates as the ad volume will go down and the prices probably increase as only the top affiliate bid will be shown.

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6:57 pm on Jan 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

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What I am saying is that rules regarding who gets served and who doesnít have to be applied fairly and you canít single out a certain group of people and deny serving them when they comply with all of the rules of your establishment.

Maybe it's time to get away from the McDonald's and video-store analogies, which aren't relevant to what we're discussing. We're talking about a media company that has the First Amendment right to choose what ads it runs or doesn't run. (And by the way, I have yet to hear about an anti-discrimination law that lists affiliates as a protected group!)

6:59 pm on Jan 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

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maybe time to close this thread and deal with the issue at hand

sometimes it looks like the adwords forum is heading like forum3, where a simple topic can go all political

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Affiliates are parisites

Markus,

What is a parisite? One who lives in Paris, France? If you were able to write better and meant parasite, then that too is a meaningless statement that contributes nothing worthwhile to this discussion.

Parasites are organisms that feed off a host. Where's the correlation? You might as well just say affiliates smell or affiliates are garbage. Unless you're at the point where you're just making up words? Or maybe you're only 14?

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I heard that only the original merchant is going to be allowed to buy Adwords ads from now on. Affiliates will no longer be allowed. Look for the announcement tomorrow.

Ckc,

Where did you hear that? Is it just more speculation from some poster looking to agitate or was it in some responsible media? I'd be real interested in where you found that. I'm not knocking you for repeating it, it's just we were told by a mod the announcement was coming today and again nothing.

Curious how this is the only board that's even mentioned these changes. Anywhere else I read of these alleged Google changes alluded back to this board.

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Also, the headline at dm news today is that Microsoft has listings on monster and other job sites looking for PPC professionals who "have pay-for-performance (P4P) experience and want to be part of the next revolution in online advertising".

I think a little serious competition is sorely needed.

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Parasites are organisms that feed off a host. Where's the correlation? You might as well just say affiliates smell or affiliates are garbage. Unless you're at the point where you're just making up words? Or maybe you're only 14?

Affiliates feed off of adwords/google and at the same time are destroying the very system. As an affiliate i could care less about the merchant i am promoting or what is considered right and wrong. Opening up 6 or 7 adwords accounts and bidding on things like "dead cat" and redirecting to the merchant via 6 or 7 different affiliate accounts is a extremly easy way of making money. Unless google does something to stop that, no one is going to change as the revenues are through the roof.

I've made hundreds of thousands via adwords/affiliate as well as a merchant. At the end of the day this is all a game, and if you don't adapt to the new rules you won't be in the game. It is as simple as that.

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Maybe it's time to get away from the McDonald's and video-store analogies, which aren't relevant to what we're discussing. We're talking about a media company that has the First Amendment right to choose what ads it runs or doesn't run. (And by the way, I have yet to hear about an anti-discrimination law that lists affiliates as a protected group!)

I am glad that money I spent on law school wonít go to waste ;). Number 1 if you are talking about companies they are not necessarily afforded the same protection under the Bill of Rights that individuals are. Number 2 Free Speech as in the first amendment is your guarantee (as an individual) that government wonít infringe upon your free speech rights. It does not govern relationships among private parties. Number 3 yes these types of issues wouldnít fall under discrimination law, and affiliates arenít a protected class under Federal and State Discrimination laws, but these issues fall neatly under what is known as Unfair Trade Practices law. In essence if you are a monopoly (which I believe Google would be considered as such by the courts) you cannot deny access to your marketplace that would create an unfair restriction on trade.

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when the new TOS are announced is it possible to create 2 threads? One for everyone to stay on topic and discuss the changes and the implications, another for petty squabbles, slanging matches and personal agendas. Mummy won't let me stay up late enough to read a 1000 post thread.
8:40 pm on Jan 6, 2005 (gmt 0)

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