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More>> link under adwords column

I just noticed this... is it new or just the egg nog?

   
4:23 am on Dec 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Yep, under the column of adwords ads, there is a link that leads to the next set of AdWords ONLY (no natural serps).

I could have sworn that I've never seen this before.

4:34 am on Dec 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Freaky. You can see them all using this:

[google.com...]

3:16 pm on Dec 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Does using this search result in an impression count towards the Adwords?
3:37 pm on Dec 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Don't see this in Europe...
5:31 pm on Dec 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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This works for most of the G searches.

[google.co.uk...]
[google.com...]
[google.com.mx...]

etc...

7:47 pm on Dec 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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It's intermittent here in the UK. Can't spot what the pattern is yet.

First impression is that it's a good thing. Might be even better if it fitted on a 800x600 display without scrolling to the right.

Where's AWA!

7:54 pm on Dec 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I noticed it yesterday. I wonder if it will increase CTR.
3:36 pm on Dec 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Would the average surfer accept purely sponsored links?
3:48 pm on Dec 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Now the click fraudsters don't even have to learn how to use an HTML parser! :)
3:58 pm on Dec 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Would the average surfer accept purely sponsored links?

Most users won't even know, they'll simply click on "More >>", and they'll think those are regular results.

4:06 pm on Dec 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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On a side note, does the fact that 5 companies are advertising that they sell a non-existant item say anything about the relevancy issues that adwords is having? And by the way, less than half are affiliates.
4:52 pm on Dec 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Now the click fraudsters don't even have to learn how to use an HTML parser!

LOL!

You can use this to easily build an index of advertisers in your targeted industries. If Adsense ever drops your sites or you don't like the return - contact the companies directly.

5:51 pm on Dec 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Thanks for posting this URL. Very useful!
6:48 pm on Dec 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I'm guessing the ads are geotargetted? Would be nice if I could see the results for say the US, without having to go through a proxy to fool Google as to my location.
7:16 pm on Dec 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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not seeing it here from my location in Northern California...
10:34 pm on Dec 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Not seeing this in my State NY?

Henry

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11:30 pm on Dec 27, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Yup I'm seeing this in the UK this evening.

The sponsored links layout looks very bland in comparison to the nice long description we're used to for each natural result in the serps.

2:15 am on Dec 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Déjà Vu? [webmasterworld.com]
3:15 am on Dec 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

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It's working in NY right now.

FWIW, I don't think that it'll make any measurable difference/

3:04 pm on Dec 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Here's my prediction:

Dec 2004: Link to pure PPC appears at end of PPC links.

Mar 2005: Link to pure PPC appears on more prominent places.

Jun 2005: Natural results moved to the right and PPC on left.

Sep 2005: No natural results for commercial KWs, With a link to 'non sponsored' at the bottom.

Dec 2005: Only pure PPC results for commercial KWs.

Mar 2006: All the other major SEs do the same.

3:15 pm on Dec 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Maybe at Yahoo/MSN, but not at Google.

Their whole value proposition is their ability to out search the other engines.

With the bundling capabilities of Yahoo and MSN, I can see them wanting to do something like that because they can force you into their search engine other ways.

Google however, doesn't really have anything to force people anywhere except the genius of their search.

Also, I'd change your methodology. I think more results at the top of the page slowly pushing natural SERPS further and further below the fold will be the tactic of choice.

5:56 pm on Dec 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Kapow, sightings of that bogeyman have been reported throughout our industry's entire history, but alas, he never fully materializes.

In fact, over the years, there has been improvement (thanks mainly to Google) in the way that paid/non-paid results are displayed in the serps.

Your timeline assumes that SE's can and will draw visitors to pure-ppc results. Ask yourself: how many people use Overture to search?

Heck, Overture themselves started off as a consumer oriented service (GoTo), before they figured it out and re-branded as a B2B outfit.

I look at it the same way that I look at my own sites. Yes, I strive to maximize the number of clicks that I can send to my affiliate partners, but at the same time, I can't overdo it, I HAVE to publish quality content, otherwise no one will have a reason to visit.

Same goes for Google et al. If they don't provide quality spidered serps, then no one will use them for search, and they will not be able to display their fancy ads to anyone at all.

6:25 pm on Dec 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Where's AWA!

I was hanging with the family in the Land-of-No-Internet! (Mom's house, in other words.) Glad to know that my absense was noted, however. ;)

As most of you know from having watched for a long while, Google tends to test a lot of things - and I imagine this is one such case. I'm actually not aware of the nuts and bolts details, although I'm sure that if this were to become a 'feature', then documentation in the FAQ would come along with it. ;)

AWA

1:21 pm on Dec 29, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The subconscious signals that google used to send to people who used it are changing drastically.

An amazing transformation in my mind:

My friends / colleagues mention google as G:

Till October 2004: Connotation -> Great
October-December -> Materalization of a transformation.
December 2004: Connotation -> Gone.

10:29 am on Dec 30, 2004 (gmt 0)

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You dont see this happening with the natural results. You dont see G put a more... button near the natural results

Do G realise that people might want to filter the natural results as well so that no paid ads appear.

5:23 pm on Jan 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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<You dont see this happening with the natural results>

Exactly... IMHO this is not a good thing for Google to do. It definitely gives the impression that paid ads are what they really want to show, and would only show if they could get away with it.

6:09 pm on Jan 3, 2005 (gmt 0)

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Some feedback for AWA: if this tool is meant to be usefull for something then please add some proper geo targeting so we can see which ads run in a specific language/country combination.