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kmander

7:14 am on Aug 16, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Do the Googlers review and authorize every single keyword that is submitted?

If so, am I upsetting G every time I post 1000+ keywords to a point where it might take longer for the review process to be completed.

As my experience goes, I feel that Gooogle rate or add notes to accounts detailing credibility/problems. Well behaved account managers will have their submissions automatically posted while others may have instant posting followed by a quick check up and new or troubled accounts have complete censoring before posting.

... just trying to keep G happy :)

AdWordsAdvisor

5:42 pm on Aug 17, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Do the Googlers review and authorize every single keyword that is submitted?

Yep.

If so, am I upsetting G every time I post 1000+ keywords to a point where it might take longer for the review process to be completed.

No, you certainly aren't upsetting us. That's our job. ;)

Caution: AWA now stepping up on soap box!

On the other hand, you may be upsetting all the other folks who have an ad in the review queue behind yours! Or those who are upset that the AdWords system is slower than it used to be.

It seems to be in vogue these days to submit many thousands of keywords, not because they are good keywords, but simply because it is possible to do so.

I've looked at a lot of accounts recently that are filled to the brim with thousands of useless 'deadwood' keywords. Some examples:

* Thousands of keywords that are entirely unrelated to the product or service being advertised.

* Thousands of 'what if' keywords, that are only remotely related to the product or service being advertised. (For example, 'what if' someone who is searching on tickets for the a particular performance center in California might instead decide to click on an ad for a music service for professional musicians in New York?)

* Thousands of keywords that have never had an impression, let alone a click. (These are often keywords with a $0.05 Max CPC, that are so competitive that the ad is showing in the 140th position on a good day, for example.)

At the bottom line, thousands of non-performing keywords in thousands of accounts slow things down for all advertisers. So, personally, I don't recommend it.

AWA now stepping down from soap box

... just trying to keep G happy :)

Thanks, kmander. And thanks also for providing me with the opportunity to talk about a little pet peeve of mine. ;)

AWA

kmander

6:20 am on Aug 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Many thanks AWA, you can't tap into this kind of information anywhere on the Google site - thats for sure!

More or less every keyword I submit I also submit:

keyword.com
www.keyword.com
keywordphrase
keyword-phrase

Okay, they get 1 impression a week but they are often coupled with a very high CTR. These are still targeted kws, so I believe this is a good strategy.

Tens of thousands of keywords do become rather difficult to manage, but putting all these more quirky keywords in their own ad groups helps.

PS
I am sure this has been said elsewhere, but it would be an utter joy if creatives/keywords had an "Under review" status.

Shak

6:38 am on Aug 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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PS
I am sure this has been said elsewhere, but it would be an utter joy if creatives/keywords had an "Under review" status.

absolutely

shak

MovingOnUp

2:22 pm on Aug 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The simple fact is that you get much more traffic from 10,000 keywords than you do from 100 keywords. Until you offer something that will allow them to accomplish the same thing, people will continue to enter more keywords.

I think we all like to try to come up with all variations. Perhaps Google could come up with some way of allowing us to specify variations easier.

For instance, instead of

buy red widget
buy red doodad
buy green widget
buy green doodad
buy blue widget
buy blue doodad
purchase red widget
purchase red doodad
purchase green widget
purchase green doodad
purchase blue widget
purchase blue doodad

Perhaps Google could allow us to specify

(buy¦purchase) (red¦green¦blue) (widget¦doodad)

This would allow us to add more variations very easily and at the same time reduce the number of keywords. For instance, I could easily expand "(buy¦purchase)" to "(buy¦purchase¦order¦find)", doubling the number of variations.

Lord Majestic

2:28 pm on Aug 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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On the other hand, you may be upsetting all the other folks who have an ad in the review queue behind yours!

Looks like Google is in need for a CRM system, which would give higher priority to those words that are likely to bring more profit to Google ;)

Anyway, if all words are reviewed manually then why not set queue rule of X items per queue then the rest goes to the start of queue?

kmander

4:30 am on Aug 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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The simple fact is that you get much more traffic from 10,000 keywords than you do from 100 keywords. Until you offer something that will allow them to accomplish the same thing, people will continue to enter more keywords.

Nail on the head. I can still appreciate the pain the AdWords team must be going through but I doubt AWA can dispute that more (relevant) keywords = more traffic.

Top notch ideas MovingOnUp & Lord Majestic BTW :)

AdWordsAdvisor

8:20 pm on Aug 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



Nail on the head. I can still appreciate the pain the AdWords team must be going through but I doubt AWA can dispute that more (relevant) keywords = more traffic.

Nope, I certainly can't disagree with that - with the operative word being 'relevant'.

It's just that you probably haven't seen as many accounts as I have with many thousands of irrelevant keywords that haven't had a single impression for months on end.

It's those keywords that I'd argue against. ;)

AWA

kmander

6:15 am on Aug 24, 2004 (gmt 0)

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It could be argued however, that there is some benefit for having many, only semi-related keywords in an adgroup. Even if these keywords to not get any impressions, they serve a purpose of painting a picture of the theme of the adgroup and thus widen your exposure on the content network.

Would it not be good strategy to include many relevant keywords (or semi-relevant) at .5 cents to deliberately avoid getting direct clicks but instead benefit from content site exposure.

To this end, surely it is also bad advice to seperate out good performing keywords into their own group, since there is benefit from having both good and bad together.

Interested to hear other peoples thoughts on this.

squirrelradio

6:00 pm on Sep 10, 2004 (gmt 0)



Hi,
Newbie here trying to use Adwords.
I've read all the posts, article after article.
I still am getting my words slowed every time I enter them.
My daily limit is $100 my cpc is $.15 and for my web design
business I'm using keywords like "Connecticut Web Design"
I have about 14 keywords and they are all targeted, not just random.

From what I understand this should be specific enough shouldn't it?
Can anyone please help here? I'm out of ideas.

p.s.> my CTR and is 0 and no impressions since the 1st 1k after I reactivated.
Thanks
- Squirrelradio