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No Good Keywords for Adwords!

either untargetted expensive or targetted no traffic

         

ticadel1

11:49 pm on Jun 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I wonder if anybody else has ran into this situation, and has any idea of a solution.

I intended to try to sell an e-book for $29 using AdWords but gave up. The e-book is on the topic of 'how to retire in X country.'

Problem here is there are no appropriate keyphrases to use.

The keyphrase 'X country" gets 56 hits per day, a lot of traffic but totally untargetted.

On the other hand the keyphrase 'retire in X country' and all the variations and similar keyphrases thereof, get 0.1, 0.2 or 0.3 hits per day - virtually nothing.

I haven't been able to come up with any keyphrases that represent a happy medium - either tons of untargetted traffic, or dribbles of targetted traffic.
With the sale price of my e-book at $29, it doesn't work in either scenario.

If I tried to pay for all the untargetted clicks, the monthly click cost would be well over a reasonable expectation of ROI, and if I just paid for the targetted clicks, I'd earn barely enough to live on one peanut a day.

So I seems like getting AdWords to work very much depends on
1) the sale price of the product. It's got to be right.
2) Whether appropriate keyphrases get good volume of traffic.

I figure I'm just SOL with my product when it comes to Adwords.

Given the high monthly CPC total with the high-traffic keyword scenario, and the low volume of sales with the low-traffic keyphrase scenario, I can't get a moderate volume of well-targetted traffic. C'est imposible!

Has anyone else run into this situation?

RedWolf

12:17 am on Jun 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

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You don't have to confine yourself to just the keywords in "Retire in X country". Think of variations of the concept and also other searches that may be drawing your target market. The following list would be something I would search under and all the terms are wide open for cheap 5 cent ads. Without knowing the country these may not all be appropriate, but play around with some variations:

tropical retirement
island retirement
expat retirement
expatriation
foreign retirement
overseas retirement
X country living
x country expat
x country expatriation
expat

Remember that just because a term has only a few clicks a day, it isn't bad. You just need a number of terms then. Also a click from a very specific term is probably much more likely to convert than from a general one.

anallawalla

12:35 am on Jun 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I thought I replied but must be dreaming.

I suggested trying to find lateral concepts of interest to people in that age bracket - people who are willing to retire overseas are likely to be interested in learning a new language, travel, hobbies, etc. Bids in such niches might not always be cheap but they help to catch the attention of someone who might not be searching for country X.

Arty2003

1:48 am on Jun 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

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What about your ad text?

Using 'X country' keyword but mentioning the price of e-book in text ad might help?

hobbnet

3:57 am on Jun 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Why not try the keyword, "retirement" and other variations of this word and keyphrases and target it to the specific country/region?

Of course, this doesn't work if your target market is in a different country from which you are writing the ebook about. But, if this is the case then you could just bid on general terms and prequalify clicks with well written copy as suggested by someone else.

marek

7:14 pm on Jun 7, 2004 (gmt 0)

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ticadel1, your book is on how to retire in X country. But as a marketer, you should first ask yourself a question why should any one retire in X country. Does it solve someone's problem? Good! What problem is it? Could you name it? Great! That is you keyword.

People often do not know the solution, but they know their problem :-)

Marty_Foley

10:08 am on Jun 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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A more successful approach is backward to this one...

Find the need or want in the market, FIRST and foremost (in this case, sizable keyword inventory for the market), and only THEN find products/services to match those needs or wants.

Marty Foley

webdiversity

11:38 am on Jun 9, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Find several more products/services related to that sector and employ a trojan horse approach to get people to buy your book.