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Viewing Adwords without hurting clickthrough rate

Is there a way to do this?

         

webgator

4:02 pm on Mar 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Is there any way to see your adwords without influencing the clickthrough rate? One of our clients wants to check out their ads and see what the competition is, but I think its hurting the clickthrough rate on their ads/

Chicken Juggler

4:10 pm on Mar 15, 2004 (gmt 0)



If viewing your ads affects the CTR then the CTR does not mean much anyhow. That means that you have hardly anybody viwing your ads. I don't know of a way but I would not worry about it.

yonnermark

4:35 pm on Mar 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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But it's all relative so maybe he is hurting his CTR.
If he gets 5 impressions per day, then if he views the ad himself he is hurting his CTR by something like 20%

Chicken Juggler

4:47 pm on Mar 15, 2004 (gmt 0)



My point is that if you are getting 5 impressions a day those stats are worthless. You need a certain number of impressions a day for CTR to be relavant. That is just not enough data for proper statistacal usefulness. If you are worried about Google droping the word they will not. There has to be a certain number of impressions for them to worry about it and if one click can move your CTR then you are not in that relm.

webgator

5:05 pm on Mar 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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We are actually getting several hundred impressions a day but few clicks. However, every time the client asks about the positioning, I can't find their ads. We even raised the max bids, just to see if the ads would move up in position. But they are stuck around #7 with a low interest bar.

My fear isn't that the client is searching once or twice, but that that the 3 or 4 executives each search 3 or 4 times a day. Trust me, they are obsessed with the specific terms we are using. The terms are more general then I would like, but the ads are very narrowly focused for a specific market. I am still waiting for permission to test a few more specific terms.

mr2828

8:28 pm on Mar 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I check by using search.aol.com

This will still affect your reported CTR & stats shown in the adwords control panel, but since AFAIK Google bases its decisions on where to rank your ad and whether it is performing well or not solely on the CTR from Google only, and not from AOL and the other partners then at least this method will not hurt you in those ways.

Chndru

8:31 pm on Mar 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Now, Now...nice idea, mr2828.

webdiversity

8:40 pm on Mar 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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All impressions will have a detrimental impact, without a corresponding click.

AOL will only show the ads that are syndicated, many advertisers don't show their ads on syndicated partners sites, so it's a good suggestion, but not the panacea.

Clients need to trust the fact that their ads are shown as frequently as their budget permits. If they have time to check, then the campaigns not working as well as it could be.

webgator

8:40 pm on Mar 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I wasn't aware that AOL isn't counted in the clickthrough rates for placing an ad. Thanks.

AdWordsAdvisor

10:10 pm on Mar 15, 2004 (gmt 0)

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However, every time the client asks about the positioning, I can't find their ads. We even raised the max bids, just to see if the ads would move up in position...

If you sometimes see your ad, and sometimes not - it usually means the Daily Budget is lower than would be required for the ad to show all the time. In brief, it is worth keeping in mind that:

* Daily Budget directly influences how often your ad appears, and

* Max CPC directly influences in what position your ad will appear.

My fear isn't that the client is searching once or twice, but that that the 3 or 4 executives each search 3 or 4 times a day...

Followed by:

Clients need to trust the fact that their ads are shown as frequently as their budget permits.

Agreed. And it may be worth politely mentioning to the execs that many, many, 'ad verification' searches may reduce the value they receive from the advertising.

AWA