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Estimating popularity of specific search terms ...

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10:01 am on Oct 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Hello all.
This is my first post!

Ok - I have read many threads, both here and in other
search engine related forums, and I have a question :)

Is it possible to discover an *accurate* representation
of the total quantity of unique search term queries that
have been performed over a set period of time in Google?


A) I know and understand about the Overture suggestion tool

B) I understand that WordTracker represents only "meta
searches", and their estimations are not representative of
the total quantity of real searches performed at Google.

3. I understand that I *could* create an Adwords campaign,
and simply watch the popularity of search terms etc.

BUT surely, there must be some way to estimate the total
quantity of times, a person types in a search term into
Google. Does Google provide a tool to discover this info?
I read somewhere that they do, (or did) and it related to
the CPM costing of premium advertisements or something ...

Now I realise this issue has been looked at over and over
again, and I spent the whole of today looking at attempts
to isolate and define a relationship between the Google
Adwords details, Overture's suggestion tool totals, and
the statistics preseneted by WordTracker (full version) ...

Assuming that this information is not available, is it even
possible to create a special spider, or piece of software
that *records* particular searches, so that I can see with
some level of accuracy, the degree of popularity on the
search terms? Something like GoodKeywords on steroids?

Phew - thanks for reading, and I really look forward to
reading through your responses! Thanks a HEAP :)


10:07 am on Oct 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I regularly get this information from My Google Account Manager when planning campaigns on behalf of clients for Premium Listings.

Apart from that, I do not think any solution is out there that will give you this information

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news.


10:10 am on Oct 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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very true.

Next best thing is checking the logs of the sites listed in the serp's on the position you want to aim at, but not all sites have a open logfile like nedstat.

10:23 am on Oct 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Shakil: - Could you please explain a little more about the
"My Google Account Manager" concept? I'd appreciate it !

Is this differenct to the Adwords select program, and if so,
then how do I access this information. Do I need to setup
an account, and if so - what does it cost?

This is the best information I have found today :)

10:30 am on Oct 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Google Account Manager = handling clients who spend lots of $$$$$$$ on Premium Listings.

Completely different to Adwords.


10:31 am on Oct 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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(Google's current campaign minimum is $15,000 over three months.
For campaigns at a lower spending level, try Google AdWords Select.)

click on Premium Sponsorships

10:49 am on Oct 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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OK! So I have finally discovered how to find all related
search terms to a particular concept! Basically I need to
get myself "Google Account Manager" access, but like you
pointed out - this is quite expensive ...

SO, my next question is:

For those lucky people that have "Google Account Manager"
access, do they habitually provide details to people like
me, that would be interested in obtaining a comprehensive
overview of a particular search term?

With this information, I would then (if I understand it
correctly), be able to setup an Adwords account with a far
better understanding of what search terms I should target.

Yes sure, I could get this information from Overture's
suggestion tool, a full WordTracker subscription, or even
through various kieyword extrapolation programs - BUT, it
would not be as comprehensive as someone with "Google
Account Manager" access. Right?

As far as I can tell from this thread, a very comprehsive
understanding of *most* related search queries applying to
a particular concept, can *only* be found with "Google
Account Manager" access? Is this correct?

So getting back to my original idea - do SEO's with this
type of access charge the general public for these results?
Is this their main job? (Please accept my apologies for my
obvious lack of knowledge in this area!)

And if so, where can I go to ask a SEO to do a bit of
research for me on a particular search term idea? If you
have the time, I'd also appreciate any thoughts on what
this type of professional search term analysis would cost :)

Once again - thank you for the information. I really hope
that people with similar questions to mine find this thread
in the future. It is very informative, and I'm delighted !

10:58 am on Oct 24, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Not sure what sort of reply you are hoping for, however here is my thoughts on the matter.

1, I only use this service when planning a campaign.
2, I do not know anyone who will offer this as a commercial service.

3, Google ONLY provide this information, so you can plan your your Premium listings better, NOT so you can use the valuable data for other programs/campaigns or search engines.



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