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Number of ads shown in a SERP

what determines it?

         

Chndru

4:59 pm on Oct 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Just am curious, if &num= parameter determines the number of Ads shown in a SERP page in G.

ninhld

5:30 pm on Oct 29, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I think the maximum ads in a SERP is 8.
and its less than 8 if there are less than 8 accounts buying that keyword.

AdWordsAdvisor

1:54 am on Oct 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

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ninhld is right on the money. The maximum number of ads per page is 8. Of course, if there are 20 (fully budgeted) advertisers on the keyword 'slightly silly widget', they would show 8 per page, on three pages.

onlineleben

9:55 am on Oct 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>>they would show 8 per page, on three pages<<
How comes that sometimes I then only see pages with e.g. 4 ads on Google?
IMHO for 20 campaigns it should show 2 x 8 and 1 x 4. At least this is what I have discovered.

eWhisper

2:55 pm on Oct 30, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I think the max ads are 10 per page. Two at the top, and 8 on the side.

The question is, how does Google determine if an ad will appear on top?

This formula seems to have changed lately as a lot of my ads which were at the top of the page, are now number one for the sidebar and there is no one on the top anymore.

AdWordsAdvisor

1:04 am on Oct 31, 2003 (gmt 0)

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IMHO for 20 campaigns it should show 2 x 8 and 1 x 4. At least this is what I have discovered.

onlineleben, you and I were saying the same thing, but you were more precise. To be more specific:

Page 1 = ads 1 through 8
Page 2 = ads 9 through 16
Page 3 = ads 17 through 20

How comes that sometimes I then only see pages with e.g. 4 ads on Google?

On searches for which fewer than 8 ads show, it means that either:

* There are fewer than 8 total advertisers, or
* There are fewer than 8 advertisers who are budgeted to appear at that moment

eWhisper, you've raised an excellent point. In the transitional period during which the Premium Sponsorship program is being phased out, it is in fact possible that 10 AdWords ads will show.

I also suspect that you're correct that the 'formula' has changed lately. This in not in my arena, but an educated guess is that 'formula' will evolve until the Premium Program has ended on December 31st. At that point, I'm guessing that more information will be available. However, as most Top Spot Watchers are already aware, the exact formula in not detailed.

hcstudios

1:53 am on Oct 31, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I haven't run any tests to make sure, but maybe it depends on whether your preferences are for showing 10 results or more...maybe the folks with only 10 results showing get a default of 4 ads per page, those with more results get more ads (since there's more real estate).

I also wonder if sometimes only 4 show up because there's a big gap in click through rate between ad #4 and #5, so Google just shows the top 4 sometimes to see if the click throughs for #4 stay the same or if showing more ads raises or lowers it. I'm sure they're constantly testing and reviewing some of these types of patterns on really popular terms.