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Ever buy goofy, one-of-a-kind words?

I did.

         

HughMungus

4:17 am on Sep 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Getting higher CTR than my more generic keywords. hahahaha.

pmac

4:24 am on Sep 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Selling anything?

whizkiddo

4:29 am on Sep 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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very good Q pmac. lol.

HughMungus

3:41 pm on Sep 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Good question!

Doesn't matter so much right now for my business because it's a brand new service and what I need most is exposure; being the only advertiser for that phrase gives me cheap exposure. Besides, it's fun!

trillianjedi

3:45 pm on Sep 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Doesn't matter so much right now for my business because it's a brand new service and what I need most is exposure; being the only advertiser for that phrase gives me cheap exposure. Besides, it's fun!

It always matters - you want targeted exposure, not exposure for keywords that do not relate to your site. The latter is a total waste of money.

TJ

Robsp

3:46 pm on Sep 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Sound like a good idea. Ar you using totally goofy stuff (opasd) or words close to your actual terms/common mistyping (wogets)?

martinibuster

4:00 pm on Sep 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Doesn't matter so much right now for my business because it's a brand new service and what I need most is exposure;

Especially for branding/exposure purposes, you could make better use of your nickels. I'm using AdWords for a branding campaign right now, but I track my AdWord visitors by keywords and check for how long they are sticking around.

I do not pay for the 2-second browsers, and neither should you. Track their activities and how long they are doing it. 100 visitors who glance at your page for 1 second then blow are a waste of money.

For branding purposes (building awareness and popularity), what you want is relevant keywords that attract people who click around your website and bookmark it.

In my recent experience for a branding/exposure campaign, slightly relevant keywords are generally a waste of money, and I'm fairly certain that off-topic keywords have got to be less than useless.

Rivethed

7:23 pm on Sep 16, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Martinibuster,

I am sure this is not the right place, but i am relating to your post in this topic...

You mention:

<copy>I do not pay for the 2-second browsers, and neither should you. Track their activities and how long they are doing it. 100 visitors who glance at your page for 1 second then blow are a waste of money.

For branding purposes (building awareness and popularity), what you want is relevant keywords that attract people who click around your website and bookmark it</copy>

Situation: Okay, I have limited access (I can ul and dl via ftp) to the company domain, when I log in, the files are not first, I have to chdir to get into htdocs. Regardless, I looked in the Logs folder the server has set up, and the acces_log* file is 2147483647 bytes. I do not have any prvleges or rights to change anyhting. I CAN unplaod to htdocs, and delete from htdocs, no where else.

Now the questions: How do I track visitors, how do I tell how long they stay, whether they bookmark the site, and or if they click through to the shoppong cart (handled offsite by 3rd party). should I leave the access_log* file? Is that where I mine the info?

feel free to point me in the right board, and help would be apprcitaed.

Thanks in advance.

dragonlady7

3:04 pm on Sep 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

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A friend of mine once took out an Adword on his own name.
Why?
His then-girlfriend compulsively Googled herself and her friends. I had just put up a website with pictures of an event he participated in, and he suggested that instead of emailing her, we should just take out an Adword that linked to it. I'd never heard of it before, but sure enough, he set it up to only respond to his full name, and we set up a tracking script on the specific URL we'd directed the ad to that would log visitors' IPs and email them to him.

It took her less than a day to search on his name and look at the site.
She was the only one who clicked on it, so it cost him $5.05, as I recall.

She took something of the fun out of it (or increased it, depending on how you tell the story) by, rather than realizing she'd been pranked, naively calling him right up and saying "oh my god somebody's put up an ad about you on Google!"

She didn't last real long...

martinibuster

3:21 pm on Sep 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hi Rivethed,

You may want to take a look at the tracking and logging forum. There's a thread right now on various ways to track your visitors. The various stat programs have different capabilities.

I prefer to analyze my logs and to track users with cookies via an off-site analysis program. There are some stat packages listed there that require access to your cgi-bin (AXS is one), but there are others that don't require it.

There is also software like GoToast that is specifically designed for tracking your ppc campaigns, from click-thru to shopping cart.

HughMungus

10:32 pm on Sep 18, 2003 (gmt 0)

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"A friend of mine once took out an Adword on his own name. "

Interesting. I'm new at adwords -- would adwords tell me what IP's are looking up my name?

wackybrit

3:18 pm on Sep 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

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I was talking to a guy at PubCon who said he'd always prefer to appear #1 on (or have Adwords ads on) hundreds of "adjective adjective widgets" phrases than the pure "widgets" phrase, because of the higher CTR. This makes more sense to me too, unless you're a giant company who can service every single customer looking for "widgets" in general.

dragonlady7

4:16 pm on Sep 22, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>would adwords tell me what IP's are looking up my name
I don't know. He used a logging script.

iTISTIC

7:48 pm on Sep 24, 2003 (gmt 0)

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All you can obtain is the IP of visitors that click-through to your site. Not all of the IPs of users that saw the ad. I gaurantee you google will not provide you with this information.

There are many ways you can get the IP of visitors to your site. It should be stored in your web server's log files, but can also be obtained programatically using a script language such as ASP, PHP, ASP.NET, etc.

Shawn