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PR bar down?

No PR for anything right now...

     
2:45 am on Nov 7, 2003 (gmt 0)

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PR was on and off for the last hour - now no PR for any site I view - also, the SERPs I keep my eye on just changed...
10:25 am on Nov 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Could this be the end of PR! (For public/webmasters anyway)
10:27 am on Nov 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Still grey in the UK.....
10:33 am on Nov 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Could this be the end of PR! (For public/webmasters anyway)

Speaking for myself only, the end of PR would not be a bad thing at all. I know there are many that live by PR, but a small, non-commercial site like mine exists solely on content (all other things being equal). Links will always rule with good anchor text, but I don't need to see that green bar to tell me when I've come across a good web site, nor do the users. They are interested in good SERPS only - most users don't even know what the toolbar is.

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I uninstalled my toolbar to get a slighty newer version in the hope that it would fix the PR - it didn't - and i lost my fairly impressive 1200+ popups blocked! :-( lol
10:53 am on Nov 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Hopefully its gone for good - would be nice to get back to some old-fashioned link trading for quality and traffic
10:59 am on Nov 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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3176 popups blocked so far since last install :)
12:45 pm on Nov 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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PR bar as grey as the Danish sky.
1:29 pm on Nov 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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PR is one of Google's patented inventions. I doubt it's going away any time soon.
1:36 pm on Nov 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Nobody meant PR going away as a concept (though some think it has been weakened).

As for TPR, I would expect Google first to drop it from the newest Toolbar version, then to make old versions grey, in that order.

Since TPR seems still to be displayed in the newest Toolbar version I expect the display of TPR to stay.

1:59 pm on Nov 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Grey here: Italy!

Thank you WebmasterWorld! Before panics I had a look at this site...

It was a strange feeling to see all our sites having a grey bar.

2:14 pm on Nov 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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So what's the story GG, is something big and exciting afoot or is Google broken?
2:39 pm on Nov 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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All grey in Ireland.
At least the toolbar still shows the backlinks.
3:15 pm on Nov 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Checked site, grey PR bar.

Checked backlinks, all there.

Backspaced to site, PR there.

Refreshed page, PR remains historically correct.

Surfed, came back, refreshed, PR remains.

Pendanticist.

3:17 pm on Nov 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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doesn't work .. apprantley, the post of IE freezes below .. is the worldwide reason of it not working.

[edited by: seofreak at 3:23 pm (utc) on Nov. 13, 2003]

3:18 pm on Nov 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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No PR on nothing here. Back, refresh, whatever--grey bar twilight zone.
3:27 pm on Nov 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Checked site, grey PR bar.
Checked backlinks, all there.
Backspaced to site, PR there.

Pendanticist,
which google-server do you use for your toolbar?
Whatever I do, the PR-bar stays grey...

3:28 pm on Nov 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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hmm,
toolbar works here in Austria as usual..
3:43 pm on Nov 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Here's a wild theory,

I just had one of those 'Microsoft IE security updates' yesterday. Could that possibly be something that breaks the communication to Google in the toolbar?

What a way to get a stab in on Google after Google releases the Deskbar.

3:53 pm on Nov 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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just had one of those 'Microsoft IE security updates' yesterday. Could that possibly be something that breaks the communication to Google in the toolbar?

I was thinking that too. Anyone here not installed the updates but still having problems (or anyone installed the updates and can see the PR)

3:55 pm on Nov 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Nothing to do with the IE Security upgrade - I like the conspiracy angle though ;)
3:59 pm on Nov 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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We've made no changes in the last couple of weeks except to activate the XP firewall a couple of days ago.

The toolbar PR only stopped working yesterday.

3:59 pm on Nov 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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> Anyone here not installed the updates but still having problems

I downloaded the update yesterday but have not yet installed it...no PR. Let's stick to conspiracy theories instead ;)

4:01 pm on Nov 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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>>martinibuster and dirkz<<
I have not stopped laughing since message #24.
I think my reliance on the toolbar has me a bit fidgety. I rely heavily upon the toolbar for telling me a site is "Google OK" before I decide whether or not to link to it. If a site has a white bar, grey bar, *and* is not in SERPS relevant to that site - NO WAY MAN!

How else can I determine that linking to a site will not cause me harm? (a bit of a rhetorical question)

4:11 pm on Nov 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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hello world,

i think that the problem are the new IPs, which are added in every google data center at the moment.

each data center gets the IPs 96-99 and/or 98-99.
216.239.33.96-99
216.239.37.98-99
216.239.39.98-99
216.239.51.96-99
216.239.53.98-99
216.239.57.96-99
216.239.41.96-99
216.239.59.98-99
66.102.11.98-99
66.102.7.98-99

guys who see pr are connected to the mc data center which still send pr values... like here [www-mc.google.com]

just my 5 cents.

regards from Germany
uwe

[edited by: palace4all at 4:15 pm (utc) on Nov. 13, 2003]

4:11 pm on Nov 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Well, good to see it isn't the updates.

However, patch your computers FFS 8-)

4:26 pm on Nov 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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In Poland mostly green bar, sometimes gray.
4:50 pm on Nov 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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In russia - all day grey PR ...
4:56 pm on Nov 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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palace4all is right: if you point your toolbar to the -mc datacenter, you can see toolbar PR
5:57 pm on Nov 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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oh s***, all the net is penalized :)

too much crosslinking...

6:06 pm on Nov 13, 2003 (gmt 0)

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Google Toolbar DOWN in Canada....its a worldwide google blackout...what will we ever do? Its not fun being in the dark...
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