from PR 4 to 0 and white toolbar

i m Worrying.................

[taj79]

my website had PR 4 .......... now afer the update it has become 0..........
has it been penalized...?
i don't think i have done any spamming ......................
why have this happened?
the thread [webmasterworld.com...]
says nothing to worry.............
but why have PR dropped to 0 ...........
in the last one month i have exchanged links with around 50 sites...........
it was 4 when the only link the site was geeting from my geocities page ..........
even searching www.mysite.com does shows in google search........
google used to spider the website regularly................
it last spidered on 11th Mar

[Susanne]

Hello taj79,
You say you've exchanged links with other sites. This might be the problem. If you link to sites that search engines consider "bad" then you might get punished for that. You should link to sites that have similar content to your site and that don't seem to be doing anything "fishy". Sometimes it's hard to spot a no-no site but look for things like whether they are indexed in Google, what pagerank they have, if they have abnormally huge amounts of links from seemingly non-relevant sites, if they use spammy tactics like re-directs, doorway pages etc.
Can you find any pages in Google using this:
allinurl:www.yoursite.com site:www.yoursite.com
Make sure to write the WHOLE line in the search field. If there are no pages, that means you're not indexed anymore. Have you had server problems?

[taj79]

i have tried allinurl:www.yoursite.com site:www.yoursite.com
and google is giving 79 results..........
this time stat shows
Googlebot (Google) 68 625.31 KB 15 Mar 2003 - 20:00

last spidered on 15 Mar
but PR 0

[chickenfat]

Taj, my site shows a PRO @ www.mysite.com
but, my site shows a PR4 @ mysite.com (without www.)

This is new to me...and my first post at this WONDERFUL site. Anybody out there familiar with this?

[chickenfat]

I also just found in WW's Google Knowledge Database that the true PR can be found by going to the Google Directory (if you are listed there) and checking the green PR bar to the left of the your listing.

[webmasterworld.com...]

[Susanne]

taj79,
Check how many links you have according to Google. Please note that they will not show you all the links that point to your site. Do this: link:www.yoursite.com
If you have no links according to Google, then I am not surprised they gave you a white bar and PR0. Try to get links from other sites that ARE indexed in Google. But if you still receive the same amount of traffic that you got before, then don't worry about pagerank. Just continue to work on incoming links from relevant sites and add content all the time. Have your positions in search results for your top keywords changed?

chickenfat(!),
You are right, this IS a "wonderful" site. :) Welcome!
PR4 for yoursite.com might be because somebody is linking to your site without the www. If you check www.yoursite.com/index.htm (or whatever default page you have) there might still be another PR. Very good idea to read Google's Knowledge Database.

[Susanne]

taj79,
Maybe you should check the page where your link is placed on the other sites. Example: a site has a PR of 5 on its main page BUT inner pages can have anything from 4 to 0!
Something else, if you have done those link exchanges recently with around 40 sites, you will not see the results of that so soon. If you did it in March you probably won't see anything until the April or (most likely) May update. That is normal. :)
As long as you are sure you're not linking to "bad" sites you should hopefully be getting some green grass on that white bar within around 6-10 weeks.

[taj79]

yes its true that some webpages with whom i exchanged links have PR 2-3 ................
i think u r not sure whether i have been penalized by google.........

in case i have been penalized by google what should i do?just wait for some more weeks..................i really can't believe that i have been penalized ............

link exchange is going on ........................

[Susanne]

No, I don't think you've been penalised. Wait and see until Google has been able to see those new links. You should have your final answer by the May update.

[taj79]

ok i wait ..............
and keep exchanging links with proper sites..............

[edited by: taj79 at 4:05 pm (utc) on Mar. 17, 2003]

[Susanne]

taj79,
You might want to edit your post. It's probably against TOS to put that link.
Anyway, I see that the vast majority of pages that I get while doing that search come from your own site. But you are right, the other links come from pages that are ranked by Google, even though their rank is usually fairly low. I still don't believe you've been penalised. Do you receive the same amount of traffic as when you had PR 4?

[taj79]

as per the traffic i get most from my geocities page..........
in this month i had got visitors to this new website from 44 key phrases but none of them from the keyphrases i m targetting...............

the results are mainly coming from MSN .................

the website started this JAN

[Susanne]

taj79,
Your site is SO NEW! Patience, patience. Continue the good work you're doing hunting for links and give it at least one or two months more and slowly you will see changes. You should also try to add as much TEXT content as possible. Good luck, come back to this thread later and tell us if it worked or not. :)

[taj79]

ok susanne ...........
but the thing is that i have linked this website from my geocities webpage for which i had done lots of SEO and which has now PR 5 for the last few months..........after jan update my new website got PR 4 ............mainly due to link from geocities webpage............
so i thought that atleast it will remain 4 if not 5 ...........but it dropped to ZERO .........
so i started worrying...........
ok i will put text in the website.............................

[Susanne]

The only thing I can think of that COULD be a penalty is if the old site at Geocities and your new site have identical content. But that doesn't seem to be the case as far as I can see. Remove any content from that Geocities page except for the link to your new site. Then contact all the sites that link to your old site and ask them to change their links to your new site. After that, close the Geocities page for good. Cheers!