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Does the smiley button on toolbar submit site?

Is the smiley button a "quick submit"

         

heretic

10:50 pm on Oct 9, 2002 (gmt 0)

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One would presume that by clicking smilie or frownie on the googlebar that google uses that information to improve or decrease the value of a link. Probably some stuff in there to weed out spam too...

But if the click is on a site that is not yet indexed, is that the same as submitting a url?

Thanks.

Marcia

11:53 pm on Oct 9, 2002 (gmt 0)

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heretic, you can't "submit" with the toolbar. But Googlebot finds everything.

You know the drill, hand submit the index page and get a couple of good links.

WebGuerrilla

11:53 pm on Oct 9, 2002 (gmt 0)

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The smiley button allows you to send a positive vote for a site to Google. It is not a submission tool.

dukeblue219

1:57 am on Oct 10, 2002 (gmt 0)

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While it isn't a submission tool technically, it might actually accomplish just that. If a new page www.widgets.com/widgies.html is visited by JimBob, and he clicks the smiley, Google will probably recognize that the site is not in the index yet. I would imagine that Google might well throw that page into the spidering list.

heretic

4:09 am on Oct 12, 2002 (gmt 0)

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I tend to agree with Duke. Why wouldn't they. But it'd be cool to have official confirmation either way. But maybe they don't want us to know ;) Haha, just kidding.

egomaniac

4:25 am on Oct 12, 2002 (gmt 0)

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The rule of thumb has always been that Google will only crawl a site that has an inbound link from another site currently in the Google index. Get that and your submitted. If you don't have that, they won't include you even if you hand submit or press the smiley button. The smiley is just a "toy" at this point. Something Google is testing to see if they can make something useful out of it.

cminblues

5:01 am on Oct 12, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Should be enough to log the data sent by your toolbar to www.google.com when you 'click' the smile, if you want to know what really happens. :)

heretic

5:10 am on Oct 12, 2002 (gmt 0)

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cm, great idea! hmm..do you mean do that and then do a search at a later date to see if google got it? Or look at the logs for a googlebot (which I wouldn't know how to do).

Ego, reallly? Submitting a url won't get you into google? It's just there to placate people?

I could imagine a situation where someone creates a website, has no links to it and only promotes a url through a trade association and submitting to google. Legitimate site, plenty of content, no reason it shouldn't be in google. If what you say is true, I am astounded!

cminblues

5:33 am on Oct 12, 2002 (gmt 0)

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do you mean do that and then do a search at a later date to see if google got it? Or look at the logs for a googlebot

Not exactly, I mean logging the data sent by the browser googlebar-enhanced when you click the smiley. [this is possible only if you have IE&Googlebar of course ;)]

About the issue
Google will spider a page without any inbound links
only because someone has seen this page with Googlebar adv. features enabled?
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there was a little thread here some weeks ago, I don't remember who [a girl] has pointed that Google do this, then GoogleGuy stated that this is impossible.. [I think the girl here was right, anyway :)]

gstewart

7:23 am on Oct 12, 2002 (gmt 0)

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Sorry to be dumb...but which smiley are we talking about?

mack

7:35 am on Oct 12, 2002 (gmt 0)

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On the Google toolbar there are 2 smilley faces one :) and one :( they aren;t standard you need to go into toolbar options to get them working.

Powdork

7:43 am on Oct 12, 2002 (gmt 0)

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The rule of thumb has always been that Google will only crawl a site that has an inbound link from another site currently in the Google index. Get that and your submitted.

What if you have a strong inbound link (only link) that missed (maybe) the deep crawl because it was down during the worldcom blackout. The link was previously enough to make the site in question a pr 5. Will submitting the url, or even possibly using the smiley, help to keep the site from being dropped in the next index.

johnraphone

10:04 am on Oct 12, 2002 (gmt 0)

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That would be an interesting expirement, create a simple page, have a few Google Bar users +simle it, put a tracking device on it, don't link to it in anyway, see if GoogleBot takes the bait.