I have noticed that all results in the search yahoo UK only SERPs are all .co.uk
Is it a prerequisite that your domain has a .co.uk to show up in these uk only SERPs?
If it is, does anyone think that a .co.uk name, which we already have, can be used by letting Google follow it to our site? Will this work? Or does anyone have any other ideas?
ps google.co.uk UK pages only- likes us
Cheers
Googly
Is it a prerequisite that your domain has a .co.uk to show up in these uk only SERPs?
I have .coms showing OK.
Does your .com have a Yahoo listing or are you are referring to the 'web pages' results which come from Google.
Is your .com just 'not in' or is it appearing but just ranked in the depths of the SERP?
We do not have a yahoo listing, it seems .coms are allowed if they have a listing, which is not surprising. Also none of the competing results have yahoo listings.
I get to the results page by first typing *ww.yahoo.co.uk - selecting UK ONLY and then doing the search.
These are the web pages results. The .com is just not in, it would definitely be ranked well if it was. For instance in is in ww.yahoo.co.uk when you do a All Sites search.
We can't afford a yahoo listing. Just thought I'd make that clear.
Sort of makes sense if you think about it.
Whilst happy to accept .coms in UK directory categories, strangely Yahoo do not accept Google's idea of what constitutes 'UK' when it comes to the Yahoogle bit.
They take the Google UK results then dump all the .coms and 'foreign' domains.
Seems you just got to be a little bit more UK to get into the Yahoogle results.
We have a few .co.uk domain names. However our only fixed domain name is a .com, which is with our web host. Our .co.uks use frame pointing to our website homepage from 123-reg (domain name company), we use these to put on our printed stationary.
(For example *ww.btconnect.co.uk (pointing) and *ww.btopenworld.com (fixed))
The only domain name on the web (e.g. links in directories) is our .com . So what kind of effect would putting a link using our pointing domain name (.co.uk) on the web have, so that the googlebot can spider it?
My view is that this probably won't make a difference and that the .co.uk would have to be a fixed domain name. Or if the .co.uk was recognised then only our homepage would enter the serach results on yahoo.co.uk. Anyone have any thoughts on this?
Googly
To guarantee a result you would need to have the .co.uk hosted in its own right. Of course, then you would run into the duplicate content problem.
I'd host the .co.uk in its own right and create a robots.txt exclusion for Googlebot on the .com.
You would then need to get any incoming links for the .com changed to .the .co.uk.
Interesting to see that .net sites also get filtered so I imagine that any domains without a .uk in it gets dropped. I have to agree with 4eyes about domain filtering not making sense.
Also just re-read 4eyes suggestion of hosting the .co.uk ste in its own right and adding the exclusion in the .com So now realise that yuo weren't talking about parallel sites. Also had the Christmas party last night.
Why would you not just permanently redirect from the .com to the .co.uk?
Way too cynical. There is nothing new about filtering out .com domains. Most UK versions of SEs have given a UK sites option which has done that for years. We've always used the 4eyes method for client sites to overcome the problem. Google UK was the first SE I've seen trying to identify location by hosting IP or domain as opposed to just domain.
So I realised that it wasn't going to make sense to get a yahoo.co.uk paid listing if I could get my website in the yahoo.co.uk index via a cheaper option, namely Google. So I had a website with a fixed .com domain name, which wasn't getting into the uk website search in yahoo.co.uk.
The only .co.uk domains for the website were not fixed (they were just pointers) and so once I had typed in the ww. mywebsite.co.uk it would find my website and revert to ww. mywebsite.com. During some experimentation I found that it was possible to get a page into the uk search yahoo.co.uk index if the page was pointed to by a .co.uk. I only have one link on the internet to this website (as I am still experimenting) and this link is on another site I own. The link was ww. mywebsite.com before this saga, but before Christmas I changed it to ww. mywebsite.co.uk.
Obviously this would only put the one page into the index and all links from that page were .coms, so no other pages would be 'turned' into .co.uks. Hope you understand this.
The reason that I'm using these pointing .co.uks rather than a fixed .co.uk is to do with money and a lack of foresight. I didn't see this coming and so we did not buy a fixed .co.uk domain name. This may be a better solution for the future.
So now onto the issue of duplicate pages. If the .com was already in the index and along comes a .co.uk, how is this handled. Well I have just looked in Google.com and both the .com page and the .co.uk page are in. In Google, I suppose expectededly, the older page is given a higher ranking. But what will happen in search uk sites in yahoo.co.uk?
Well, as we already know, the ww. mywebsite.com url
is completely ignored, but the ww. mywebsite.co.uk url is recognised and gets in! Result! What's more, it comes in at number one for my main keywords.
The changes on the aforementioned website which made this happen only took place before Christmas, so the lovely Freshbot was kind to me and has made this happen.
Obviously anything can happen in the next couple of updates, and this approach may not hold ground in the future. The ideal solution I think would be to get a fixed .co.uk domain name, but for now....here's hoping.
Googly
1. Did you state in your first £200 application that you wanted a listing in an additional category?
Did you give your 1 category as a Main Yahoo.com listing? and then your second as a regional UK category?
Here is the answer.
Contact Yahoo! London and ask for URL support and tell the guy that answers your web site address and what the problem is.
He will probably get you listed in the Yahoo.co.uk directory.
It takes a few days, as they updaet the Yahoo UK directory on a Tuesday and a Thursday.
If you are selling hardcore adult entertainment or anything illegal in the UK,you dont have a chance.
It looks as if Yahoo.co.uk are Beta Testing the same system that was being used in the Yahoo.Com site before Christmas, the whole directory is now not worth submitting to at the moment as the main results being displayed are from the web (Google).
I hope this helps.
