Traffic/Ranking Company

[mmmtweak]

OK so I have been contacted by a companu. They say that they can get my better rankings for a bunch of my sites. The main thing I saw after doing my own research is that their main url is not even ranked in google. It is not even found possibly banned. anyway they have another url that when accessed just redirects to the main url. My question is this. Can they help increase rankings with supliment urls that redirect to my sites. Or are they just going to increase my traffic by making the net bigger.

[edited by: agerhart at 1:08 pm (utc) on Oct. 9, 2003]
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[Macro]

that their main url is not even ranked in google

Exactly what I ask all the runny nose kids who call up offering SEO services - if you are unable to do it for your own site what makes you think you can do it for mine?

Whether they are looking to get you additional traffic by creating "doorway" pages/mini-sites or some other means is a moot point. Go with them when you are 100% satisfied with the reason why their home page does not rank. (Were they banned? Do they have a reputation for cloaking/spamming/backgound coloured text/FFAs....)

[mmmtweak]

they seem to user timed redirects to send traffic to the main domain that you have buy using other domains that are targeted for certain phrases and then they redirect to them main site. this does not seem kosher

[roscoepico]

Exactly what I ask all the runny nose kids who call up offering SEO services - if you are unable to do it for your own site what makes you think you can do it for mine?

I call it flying below the radar. Ask for some examples of rankings they may have achieved for a client or two. By excluding a SEO based on whether or not they are ranking for "search engine optimization" you are eliminating 99% of the top dogs. Remember, SEO's are the enemy as far as engines are concerned, regardless of how the reps may try and make you believe otherwise.

[mmmtweak]

but what about this company i can sticky you the url. the problem is not if they will get me rankings. the problem is the way they do it. They make domains and optimize them for phrases then redirect those user to the main page. this can not be good? they call them SEE pages

[Macro]

Ask for some examples of rankings they may have achieved for a client or two

I'll concede that that's a fair point, but they usually don't like disclosing client names. Most of the ones who call us don't know keyword density from PR from a hole in the ground.

SEO's are the enemy as far as engines are concerned

That's not something I agree with though, unless we are talking dodgy SEOs.

this does not seem kosher

You've answered your own question - why go with someone who's not kosher?

[nakulgoyal]

if they say SEE pages work, they must be having some testimonials or client references. I know that most of teh SEO companies out there don't disclose but a lot of them do!

What I feel is that till the time we play fair with the search engines (Slow and steady), we win the race...else we are nowhere! Since I feel like being there, it's better to stay there...and grow slow and steady.

Clients out there want you to optimize their website for keywords like Via... or Casi.. etc #1 position in 2 weeks. Who can do it?

I can't. Sorry. I am a a BAD SEO. :-)

[edited by: agerhart at 11:28 pm (utc) on Oct. 9, 2003]
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[dculp]

Are we discussing alias keyword conversions?New member- been observing for years. One of my Marketing/ SEO clients has been contacted by this company - they want to build keyword dense sites that then link to us for contact on buying a system.

A year ago my client was no where on the engines. They now rank in the top 5 on all engines for their main key terms and have heavy PPC accounts. The proposal from them claims a cheaper, higher conversion rate than Google and Overture PPC, but we already have high ranking and the ppc ads. I've found examples of 2 of their "keyword info sites" and neither ranks high on Google for the key terms. Also the page titles and meta tags are not consistent with the apparent top key terms on the page headers. We have a scheduled conference call so any feedback would be appreciated. I don't want to write them off completely without more details BUT what I've unearthed so far does not entice me to give a go ahead on using their services.

[edited by: agerhart at 4:37 pm (utc) on Oct. 10, 2003]
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