Welcome to WebmasterWorld Guest from 54.166.87.123

Forum Moderators: mademetop

Message Too Old, No Replies

Search Engine Partnerships Discussion

   
8:37 am on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



Dicussion for Search Engine Relationship Chart [webmasterworld.com]

That's really useful, cheers.

8:42 am on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member tigger is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member



great chart, so who gets the job of updating it
8:42 am on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member pageoneresults is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member



Nice chart Brett! Will you be keeping it current?
8:50 am on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



I'm still getting Espotting for BTLooksmart...
8:51 am on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Administrator brett_tabke is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member Top Contributors Of The Month



>Direct Hit

When I interviewed Paul G of Teoma [webmasterworld.com] he confirmed that DH would continue to be used. Most of us have seen a drop off in DH generated referrals, but they are still there. The biggest is from MSN, but an occasional HotBot and Teoma view from a DH influence still comes through.

8:55 am on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



Also, Don't forget the new Ask Jevees/Teoma deal with Google.

That's what I hate about these charts. You can't keep them up to date for two seconds ;).

Thanks for the round up Brett.

Chris.

8:57 am on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



Also, Don't forget the new Ask Jevees/Teoma deal with Google.

From the chart

8 AskJeeves has completed a deal with Google to install Google AdWords on AskJeeves and Teoma as sponsored links.
Removed: Go.com, Excite, and WebCrawler are now basic search affiliate sites of several search services (mainly Overture).

:)

8:58 am on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member vitaplease is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member



Nice one Brett,

I still like to use northernlight.com once in a while.

9:36 am on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



Great chart - thanks Brett

It would be great if it could be kept up to date.
e.g. to have a 'last update' date on it somewhere.

9:42 am on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Great work. Now what would be useful is going through each search service and estimating what % of results are delivered by each source provider. Then we could create a chart that showed what % of total traffic each source provider actually provided.

Very useful reference as it stands though.

9:46 am on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Cheers Brett,

My girlfriend will be pleased - shes started helping us out after finishing uni and her first task was to make a chart just like that, guess I'll have to think of a new job now!

10:18 am on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Are there instructions for how to use this chart? For example, I get many, many visitors from MSN searches, almost none from AOL searches. But both MSN and AOL get their results from Inktomi, as I read the chart. So how can that be? (I have not paid to be included anywhere.)
10:29 am on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Administrator brett_tabke is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member Top Contributors Of The Month



Agreed misosoph. Every engine is different in that regard. While AOL leads primarily with Inktomi results, MSN lead primarily with LookSmart results. Trying to work that in to a chart would be messy.
10:56 am on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)



Couple of comments that people made:

Dantheman said> "Now what would be useful is going through each search service and estimating what % of results are delivered by each source provider"

We actually did that some months ago, based on aggregating logs on every client - we made the columns on our Excel spreadsheet relate to the % marketshare and even colour coded the whole thing. It took AGES. Then Yahoo started using Espotting... in UK.. Then Excite went down... Then the BBC started to use search. Now our table is totally out of date!

Baccus said> "still getting Espotting for BTLooksmart... "

Yep - they have a deal at the moment - Looksmart are mixing Espotting results in with their directory ones. Wonder how long that will last now Looksmart has bidsmart.looksmart.co.uk?

Dixon.

11:02 am on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Administrator brett_tabke is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member Top Contributors Of The Month



>I'm still getting Espotting for BTLooksmart...

Which part of the results is Espotting?

11:03 am on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



Sponsored.
11:07 am on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Administrator brett_tabke is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member Top Contributors Of The Month



We must be seeing different results.

When I search on the common "mortage" on both, I don't see anything at all that matches under "featured sites".

Updated with a few more with help from Mr. Rencke.

<added>
Ok, backus sent me a search that did turn up Espotting links. Thanks
</added>

11:51 am on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



I flagged this one. Excellent chart. Thanks for making that. I thought it was a nice touch adding in some of the principle European engines.

It is getting so hard to explain this stuff to those unfamilier with search engines. And at times, I get confused anymore.

Now the real work begins, having to update it every other month! ;)

12:55 pm on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member agerhart is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member



Great chart Brett...thanks for sharing with all of us. I am sure that it will come in handy as a reference tool.

>>>updated

When has Brett not kept something updated here? ;)

12:57 pm on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Very useful.

Thank you Brett.

1:39 pm on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Awesome. Even easier to read and interpret.
Brett rocks.
2:14 pm on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member marcia is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member



Nice! Very usable and easy to follow.
3:01 pm on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Nice One Brett!
3:10 pm on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member 10+ Year Member



good stuff, Brett.

Nice to see the ODP holding strong in the Directory feeds.
Google just seems to be going from strength to strength, not sure how i feel about this.

3:11 pm on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Thank you Brett!

You really are a master at providing great tools all of us need!

4:03 pm on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Senior Member googleguy is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member



Neat stuff, Brett! Gotta print that out and put it by my computer. :)
4:31 pm on Jul 19, 2002 (gmt 0)

10+ Year Member



Great.

However, wouldn't Looksmart in some way be influenced by Zeal? (Zeal is mentioned wrt WiseNut)

9:08 am on Jul 20, 2002 (gmt 0)

WebmasterWorld Administrator brett_tabke is a WebmasterWorld Top Contributor of All Time 10+ Year Member Top Contributors Of The Month



people love charts...