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kittimakai

11:25 am on Jul 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

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OK I'm probably the only one in this forum who lacks understanding of AppleMacs but I am sure that others will make the switch in time and will have a few teething problems.

So I thought I'd start this thread to ask dumb questions and hopefully encourage others to do the same.

Q1: Answered [webmasterworld.com]

Q2: Whats a scratch disk?

Q3: What does spooling mean?

timster

12:41 pm on Jul 6, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Q2: Whats a scratch disk?

This is less a Mac question than a Photoshop question, I believe. If you're working with large images, Photoshop will use up memory pretty quickly. It will then use disk space to "double" as memory, if you let it.

In order to keep things running smoothly, a lot of Photoshop systems are set up with a dedicated disk for Photoshop to use in this way. That's the "scratch disk."

Q3: What does spooling mean?

In a word, queuing. In two, print queuing.

In the old days (meaning when PC's ran on DOS) when you printed something on your Mac, the printing application "took over" your computer and you had to wait to do anything else. Then came print spooling, where the Mac would print the document "in the background," that is, you could continue to use your computer.

Just FYI, I could be wrong, but it sounds like you've come into contact with some "old school" Mac users, as I haven't heard these terms bandied about much in recent years. (Mac OS X basicaly handles both these things automatically.) Just don't be surprised or alarmed if they use more strange terms like "extension conflict" and "Type 1 error."

kittimakai

12:01 pm on Jul 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Thanks Timster. Excellent answers. I am not sitting with old maccies - in fact I am all by myself by I am using a mix of OSX and OS9.

Another quickie

Q4: If your Mac freezes is there an equivalent to ctrl+alt+del to sort out what process is making it hang? and a way to stop it without killing all apps and processes?

timster

12:13 pm on Jul 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Q4: If your Mac freezes is there an equivalent to ctrl+alt+del to sort out what process is making it hang? and a way to stop it without killing all apps and processes?

Apple-option-escape

Be aware that this works very differently in OS 9 and OS X. In 9, it will quit the application, but possibly leave your computer in an unstable state. You should save your work and restart.

In OS X, you can force quit without making the system unstable.

Another way to force-quit apps in OS X is to right-click (or control-click) the applications icon in the dock and select Force Quit from the contextual menu.

One other tool that's useful here is OS X's Activity Monitor (called Process Monitor in older versions of OS X) which can show you which apps are using resources (CPU cylces, RAM, etc.).

kittimakai

1:12 pm on Jul 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Thanks again timster. Thats a handy tip.

Q5: Is there a list of generic keyboard shortcuts that you could point me too please. Many of the operations I am use to, use the apple key instead of crtl or shift which is no problem but in 'finder', shortcuts like new folder and tab application would be useful.

Macguru

1:30 pm on Jul 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hope this one can help.

[davespicks.com...]

kittimakai

1:45 pm on Jul 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Thanks Macguru

another question; Whats the cmd key?

Macguru

1:55 pm on Jul 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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It's also known as the Apple key.

kittimakai

2:53 pm on Jul 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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duh!

kitti :)

Macguru

3:01 pm on Jul 8, 2004 (gmt 0)

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A few questions for you kittimakai,

Since you are new to Mac and using a mix of OS 9 and OS X, wich version do you prefer?

We have an employee here who volunterely switched to the Mac after 5 years of Windows experience. The first month was difficult for her, but she survived!

Since when are you using a Mac and how is the transition so far?

First impressions can teach a couple of tricks to old Mac monkeys. :)

kittimakai

10:37 am on Jul 12, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I'll come back to your question Macguru as I have a lot to say.

In the meantime. One simple one, and another that has me really wound up:

Q6. Firstly what is the funny looking silver button on the front of a G4 that looks like a tweeter? A tweeter? or is it a button that does something grand? Tell me it's not non functional decoration ;)

Q7. And when I try to preview or even attempt to locate a file for printing using quark the Mac Crashes. I am using Quark 4.1, on OS9 with a HP colour 1700 connected via USB. the printer process has no problem with other applications in either OSX or OS9.

Tia, Kitti

whoisgregg

7:34 pm on Jul 14, 2004 (gmt 0)

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That funny silver looking button is actually a speaker. I think you can get a grill that will snap on to it but I'm not sure.

I don't have the Quark experience to help you with question 7.... my limited experience was enough to teach me that quark + printing was, ironically and for some unclear reason, very problematic. :(

kittimakai

8:08 am on Jul 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Thanks for your reply whoisgregg

I thought it was a speaker - but it doesn't seem to make any noise? I am still having problems with Quark. Does anyone know how to run it from OSX instead of OS9, this might make all the difference. As OS9 seems to be less stable. I have installed it into the OSX applications folder but it still runs in classic view anybody know how to change this setting.

Tia, kitti.

microcars

4:17 pm on Jul 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Does anyone know how to run it from OSX instead of OS9

Your version of Quark will only run under OS 9, that's why it will only run in Classic mode.

you need a newer version of Quark (6.0) for it work with OS X

whoisgregg

5:51 pm on Jul 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I thought it was a speaker - but it doesn't seem to make any noise?

You probably have external speakers hooked up and your computer will automagically play sound only through them instead of the internal speaker. You can open your System Preferences > Sound > Ouput and change where your Mac sends your sound. You can also change just system alerts to play through a different speaker.

What I want to know is how to get sound to play through everything at the same time, including the external speakers, headphones, and the internal speakers. I can't solve that one, though. :(

Chndru

6:00 pm on Jul 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I been looking for a thread like this.. for a while.. Just to bolster some courage, to finally ditch the windoze.. Keep 'em coming, kitti..

mivox

8:02 pm on Jul 19, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Heck Chndru, if you've got a question, throw it out there! :)

kittimakai

9:07 am on Jul 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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you need a newer version of Quark (6.0) for it work with OS X

*Humph!* I dont have the money :(

Maybe it is time to find the extra few quid and upgrade so I can rely on more stable processing and a far more opulent landscape.

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I unplugged the external speakers and heh presto - my little silver tweeter tweets happily away without a care.
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Q8. When I try and print from quark I get - "cannot open the printer - [64]" warning message. Why?

Macguru

1:56 pm on Jul 20, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I guess it's a Suitcase 9 conflict. Under mac OS 9, click the Apple menu (upper left) select 'extensions manager' in 'control panels'. If you see Suitcase 9, uncheck it and reboot to give printing a try.

kittimakai

12:58 pm on Jul 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Thanks Mac, Unfortuneatley that didn't work. Still getting the same error message :(

Macguru

1:41 pm on Jul 21, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Lets try this then. You run ATM too?

Via the extensions manager, restore suitcase status. Then dig into your system folder/control pannel and put a space between the tidle and the Control Panel's name so it loads before ATM during startup.

Like this : ~ Suitcase X MenuFonts™

Then restart your Mac and give it anthor try.