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How do I convert my Daughters Apple computer to be windows compatable

         

Daryles123

6:33 am on Feb 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

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My Daughter was given a Apple laptop for Chrismas could anyone advise me how I convert it to be windows compatable, We really want to Fully convert it to windows XP pro, the same as mine and can we network them, So I can do my marketing whilst she is playing in Yahooligans etc

Thanks Daryl Stephenson
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brdwlsh

7:12 am on Feb 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

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blasphemy!

just kidding, sort of.

check out this software:
Microsoft Virtual PC for Mac 6.1 with Windows XP Home

this will allow the mac to run windows software, enable file-sharing, and compatibility with windows networks.

i've never used it so i can't give it the thumbs up or down.

Daryles123

7:45 am on Feb 28, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Apple to mac for my Daughter
Thanks brdwlsh, I will look up on it!
I dont know how to respond to you so I am hoping you get this message
Thanks again:
Daryl
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P.S. Could you tell me why it is Blasfirmy
(Excuse the spelling!)
as I really cant even work out the Apple system even though I have only spent around 2 hours on it....
I couldn't even find out how to hook up to an ISP! Call me stupid if you want!
Thanks for your reply Anyway:
Daryl

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Diabolique

11:08 am on Mar 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Virtual PC is just about the only way that you can run both Mac and Windows on the same system. Its quite slow, but okay for what you want to be doing.

benihana

11:20 am on Mar 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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if its just for internet access you can share a connection between mac and pc without using virtual pc etc.

maybe this page from the apple site will help:
[apple.com...]

ben

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aaronjf

6:19 pm on Mar 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Daryles.. I think what you are asking for is to dump the laptop's Apple Operating System and load M$. To the best of my knowledge this can not be done. Running Virtual PC, as some of the others have suggested is your best bet. You will be running the M$ Operating System under the Apple Operating System.

Depending on what you are trying to do exactly none of this is necessary. Since the introduction of Apple OS X and Windows XP the two systems are networkable. Any Microsoft Word or Excel files will be compatible with both systems.

As far as using the Apple OS, it will take a little getting used to coming from a PC. I work on both, but prefer Apple. The two systems are allot more alike than they appear. The best thing to do for yourself and your daughter is to buy a copy of "Mac OS X, The Missing Manual". It fully explains how to use the OS. The Help menu is also a very good starting source of information with anything you have trouble with, like setting up the internet connection properly. Your ISP should also readily provide documentation on how to set up the connection.

You are sitting on a laptop that if new was between $1,500 - $2,500. Not a bad Christmas Gift. Worse case senario, if you and your daughter just hate the thing, you can always put it on Ebay and buy a PC.

PS: It is Blasphemy because Macs are sooo much better once you learn how to use them. Everyone that owns a Mac covets them as a sacred object.

timster

9:46 pm on Mar 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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You may also look into using Windows XP's Remote Desktop functionality. With it you can effectively "share" your PC -- you will actually see and use your PC's desktop -- when one of you is using the Mac.

NOTE: If you have Windows XP Home Edition on your PC, forget it, this won't work.

On a home network, this should be a lot faster than Virtual PC. Plus, it's free.

Read the first site below to see how to set it up. Read the second to find out how Macs can play, too.

[windows.about.com...]

[microsoft.com...]

You may learn to enjoy the feeling of sitting downstairs with a Mac doing your work that is upstairs on your PC.

Chndru

9:53 pm on Mar 1, 2004 (gmt 0)

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If she is young, the best christmas gift would be to teach her how to use and "play" with mac! She would thank you when she grows old :)

jonknee

5:54 am on Mar 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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With OS X you can network with XP really easily.

And the others are right, there is no way to convert from Mac OS to Windows. You have to emulate using something like Virtual PC (software that runs on the Mac OS). It's a whole other technology.

Daryles123

9:47 am on Mar 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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This was my first post to this Groop and I Thankyou ALL for your replies!
Very helpfull, Thanks again!

And yes aaronjf who said Good Christmas Gift (Yer I recon I saw the reciept!)and My daughter is only nine!

I am lucky to have a good mother inlaw and so is my Daughter, Maybe a little much too much of a nice Mother inlaw (Have you ever heard of Spoilt!)She got it!
God love 'em
Daryl

Daryles123

10:08 am on Mar 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I forgot to ask aaronjf
WHAT? makes the Mac's soo good I really know nothing about them except the manual We got with the computer, I Actually think that she may not have recieved all the Manuals that she should have recieved when she bought it, I will go to the nearest apple shop tommorrow and find out, because we only recieved some instructions but even to me it is still confusing as I have hardly heard the word Apple before she bought it,I admit I am not really very computer literate
Sorry for taking up soo much time but thanks again:
Daryl

PS: It is Blasphemy because Macs are sooo much better once you learn how to use them. Everyone that owns a Mac covets them as a sacred object.

madmac

6:47 pm on Mar 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Hey Daryles123,

there are some documents on the hard drive about the mac.

On the desktop, open the "Macintosh HD" or "Macintosh Hard Drive" or whatever it is labeled. You are in the right place if you see folders like "Applications", "Users", "Library" and "System". From there goto "Documents" (not to be confused with the users Documents folder). Then to "Learn More About Your Mac". Inside there should be some PDF files about your Mac.

When I bought my 12" powerbook back in October, the following PDFs came on the hard drive:
PowerBook G4 12-inch Getting Started.pdf
Switching to the Mac.pdf
Welcome to Mac OS X.pdf

The "PowerBook G4 12-inch Getting Started" manual came in a hard copy as well. The other 2 did not come in a hard copy, but I did not mind that so much as both are pretty short (switching to the mac is 31 pages and the welcome to OS X guide is 21 pages).

jonknee

9:16 pm on Mar 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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If the computer came with Mac OS X 10.3 AKA Panther (the latest version of the OS), check out the eBook by MacLifestyle. Just Google it, it's one word. It will get you up to speed.

aaronjf

9:26 pm on Mar 2, 2004 (gmt 0)

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What makes Macs better... Well there are lots reasons. These are just a few.

1) Stability in hardware and Operating System is much higher. Apple either makes or is instrumental in making all of the parts that go into an Apple Computer. This allows them to build Operating Systems around their hardware and hardware around their Operating systems.. PCs, one guy builds the hardware. Another guy builds the Operating System. The same company does not build both. They are not built together. They are not built to truly utilize each others maximum potential.

2) Ease of use, believe it or not, but the are easier to use than PCs.

3) Macs require less energy to achieve the same computing power. That is why you see 1 Ghz Macs going up against 2 Ghz PCs. MHz and Ghz are actually a really bad way of judging a computers speed. MHz and Ghz were an Intel chip flaw that they used so much power. Intel, in a stroke of marketing genius, turned a negative into a positive. The equivalent of saying just because a car is a gas guzzler, it has more power.

4) Macs come with native PDF support. PCs do not. IE MS Word on a Mac can make PDF, no problem. MS Word on a PC can not perform such a task out of the box. It requires a licensed module.

These to name a few, the list goes on. Plus a long list of reasons why Macs are much better suited for doing graphics work.

utica

1:32 am on Mar 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

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I use Virtual PC 6.1 for running those few programs I can't get for the Mac. It'll run the programs but it is very, very, very, very slow.

Did I mention that it was slow?

aaronjf

8:41 pm on Mar 3, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Yeah I have VPC also. I use it to run WPG. Even on my 2X 2Ghz G5 it runs really slow. But hey what do you expect running one OS inside another when the two aren't really supposed to talk in the first place.

madmac

5:54 am on Mar 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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at least the PPC processors are powerful enough to run software emulating an x86. To my knowledge, to date no one has been successfully able to emulate PPC with software on an x86 (though many have tried and failed miserably).

whoisgregg

5:36 pm on Mar 4, 2004 (gmt 0)

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My experience with VirtualPC was that I could run it on a top of the line G4 and emulate at speeds comparable to a top of the line pentium from six months before...

This was running regular work apps and even running video processor intensive games.

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Admittedly, I would back up the disk image after I got it installed correctly and have to go back to this clean copy almost weekly because Windows would get itself all screwed up... but that has nothing to do with VPC... ;)
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utica

1:16 am on Mar 5, 2004 (gmt 0)

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My experience with VirtualPC was that I could run it on a top of the line G4 and emulate at speeds comparable to a top of the line pentium from six months before...

Hmm... that's interesting.

I'm running mine on a dual G4 867 with about 1.2 gig of ram. The problem seems to be in screen drawing (not sure exactly what you call that).

Basically, it takes forever for the screen to refresh. If I move a window, for instance, it will take a moment for the window to actually move after I release the mouse button. Then the window gets drawn in bits and pieces.

Any ideas?

aus_dave

3:41 am on Mar 18, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Even on my 2X 2Ghz G5 it runs really slow
That's interesting as I thought VPC 6 won't run on a G5? Are you testing a pre-release version of VPC 7 perhaps? :)

whoisgregg

4:57 pm on Mar 22, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Even on my 2X 2Ghz G5 it runs really slow

That's interesting as I thought VPC 6 won't run on a G5? Are you testing a pre-release version of VPC 7 perhaps? :)

Hmm... I have a dual 2Ghz G5 and can confirm that VPC does NOT run on a G5 machine. I'm not saying it's poor performance, an actual dialog box before the program finishes opening reads: "Virtual PC does not support the CPU in this Macintosh." with the only choices being Quit or Visit Mactopia.

Perhaps he is running the older version of VPC in classic mode? Does that work?

aaronjf

8:20 pm on Mar 23, 2004 (gmt 0)

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VPC 6 will not run on a G5.

Prerelease, Yes & No... Someone asked me to take a gander at it for testing.

VPC ran really slow on my both my dual G4s also.

Aranor

3:18 pm on Mar 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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As for what makes Macs better...
[xvsxp.com...]
Very extensive, though a little bit shallow.

delboy1978uk

3:25 pm on Mar 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Good God would you listen to you all? Macs better than PCs? Maybe on a couple of points, but of course I KNOW that all of you are assuming we have microsoft running our OS.......

Macguru

4:19 pm on Mar 25, 2004 (gmt 0)

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Original topic :

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Apple to Windows
How do I convert my Daughters Apple computer to be windows compatable
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Lets keep this thread on topic, please.

Strange

4:51 pm on Mar 26, 2004 (gmt 0)

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We really want to Fully convert it to windows XP pro

Microsoft does not make a version of windows that is compatible with the PowerPC chipset that powers the Macintosh. So as far as converting it to Windows XP, you can't. The only other option here is, as has been said in this thead previously, is to use Virtual PC.

As far as networking the mac to your pc, you should have no problems doing that with OS X.